Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Citizens for Constitutional Freedom


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. WP:SNOW The Bushranger One ping only 22:46, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Citizens for Constitutional Freedom

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This is the name of the group occupying the wildlife refuge in Oregon. That single event is associated with this groups self-label. Said another way, there is no RS which discusses an organization with this name and shows the criteria for notability (as Wikipedia uses that word) have been met. There are no RSs that talk about it separate and apart from the ongoing Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. Indeed, the organization's name was only created and adopted by the handful of occupiers after they had remained in place for a few days. Apparently, they had to call themselves something with all the media attention. That does not pass muster with our standards of notability for organizations, which partially state that "An organization is not notable merely because a notable person or event was associated with it." Since the only reason for this label to exist is for the militants presently occupying the refuge to refer to themselves, this page should be deleted and redirected to the article about the occupation. If, and when, the group formalizes its operations and does enough stuff to get RS coverage as an organization, as opposed to an event then we can revisit. For now, it should be a redirect to the occupation article. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 12:44, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge as proposer. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 12:49, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2016 January 14.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 13:05, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect as suggested. The "organization" in question is just the name chosen by the people involved in this single event. Any and all references in the article are also linked to this one event, so redirecting to the event is the logical conclusion per WP:ORG. --Reinoutr (talk) 13:49, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  sst  ✈  14:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  sst  ✈  14:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge I can find no published references to the group before January 2016.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:23, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge If they do more than that, then perhaps it would be appropriate for a stand alone article. EricSerge (talk) 16:04, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect for now. There seems to be consensus here, can an admin take action sooner than later? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:34, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect per comments above. -  Cwobeel   (talk)  18:36, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the article on the occupation Hardly can be found a group. Indeed a self-given label for the occasion of the armed occupation. Not known before 2016, and thus not known except through this single event. L.tak (talk) 18:52, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. MB298 (talk) 01:15, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. Parsley Man (talk) 04:18, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect Sounds like one event - if only involved in one event then should be covered on the page on their main activity. -- Callinus (talk) 08:06, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


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