Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/City Cross Arcade


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:08, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

City Cross Arcade

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No notability found for this shopping center. SL93 (talk) 00:05, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * Speedy Delete — Speedy A7, non-notable company C(u)w(t)C(c) 02:22, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * delete fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 10:47, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * changing vote to Keep substantial coverage exists. LibStar (talk) 02:38, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete: fails to meet notability requirements for shopping centres, significant coverage. Till I Go Home (talk) 12:20, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Unless notability can be demonstrated, this should be deleted ' Ankh '. Morpork  16:18, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: New sources have been added by an editor and expanded. I'm not sure if the sources show notability, but the article looks much better. SL93 (talk) 23:01, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Understandable nomination as the article was in poor shape and didn't look like showing notability, but the improvements by Bilby show it is notable due to meeting WP:GNG. Several articles solely about the shopping centre in The Advertiser and even gets mentions in The Age and The New York Times. Jenks24 (talk) 12:05, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - It's been around for over 40 years and its creation in the 1960s was widely covered in the press as was the 1980s redevelopment. While much news about the arcade is advertising and fluff, there are a great many articles that are independent and far more than peripheral mentions. There is discussion of it in publications by the Adelaide city council, also independent of the owners. Unfortunately most many useful sources of it predate the internet and so are not googleable- Peripitus (Talk) 12:14, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - New writings emphasize qualifications towards WP:GNG, sounds less like a non-notable shopping location. C(u)w(t)C(c) 03:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * keep per sources. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:02, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep I didn't want to comment earlier, as while I added some sources, I wanted to look at the likelihood of more existing first. There are a couple of issues to mention, I guess. First, it was a good call bringing it to AfD, as the original version didn't show notability at all. In Adelaide there are a couple of arcades that I would regard as clearly notable, a large number which clearly aren't, and a few which I wasn't sure about. City Cross Arcade was in the third group. Part of the difficulty is the name - it is referred to as City Cross Arcade, City Cross and City Cross Shopping Centre, so searching was trickier than normal. The other main problem is that most of the major issues for the arcade predate online archives, but I think Peripitus is correct in that there will be decent coverage from the 1960s and mid 1980s. That said, some of the sources (not all) that I was able to find do meet the GNG - especially those around the sale in 2000/2001 and the subsequent redevelopment, and they pointed to others which will be useful when confirmed. - Bilby (talk) 06:28, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
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