Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Civilization Fanatics Center (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Deor (talk) 11:35, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Civilization Fanatics Center
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No different from other video game fan forums per WP:CRUFT. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 22:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:17, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:18, 4 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment. For what it's worth, this is widely acknowledged as the biggest and most influential Civilization fansite.  That's about all I got, though.  I don't see anything more than trivial mentions in reliable sources.  Not sure the site's awards are notable in any way. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:35, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't find any awards won by the site, or even trivial coverage of the subject in reliable sources. Links might be useful, for others to consider them. ––Agyle (talk) 19:22, 10 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. Found no coverage in a reliable source on which to base notability claim per WP:GNG, let alone significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. It's won no major awards or met other website-specific criteria described in WP:WEB to suggest notability. Individual forum posts have been referenced in a few books/papers, but these aren't sufficient for a presumption of notability. The previous AfD was closed incorrectly, in my opinion: the arguments for deletion cited policy, the arguments for keep essentially boiled down to "it's popular" with no sources cited or indication why that should be sufficient; while it's technically correct that a "consensus" wasn't reached, the closer should have considered the strength of the arguments, not just a vote count. One respondant in the 2006 AfD suggested that the game publisher's link to the fan site conferred a quasi-official status, which I'd dispute, and in the context of an AfD, point out that notability is not inherited from sites that link to a site.
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jenks24 (talk) 15:46, 11 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete for insufficient amount of reliable sources. Alexius08 (talk) 09:17, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. The trivial mentions come from doing a WP:VG/RS custom Google search.  It gets quoted every now and then for news about Civilization.  I like it, but I guess there's really no other way to vote but to delete. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:51, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.