Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Claes Joachim Olsson


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 05:28, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Claes Joachim Olsson

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Delete. Non notable biography per ONE EVENT and WP:NOT. He is only covered in news sources because he was unfortunate to be killed in action. He only has an article on Norwegian wikipedia because it is a tragedy to them. If he hadn't have died I ask, would any sources even mention a young soldier? So he was a young Norwegian soldier who happened to one of the few from his country who got killed. Tragic and newsworthy, but encyclopedia worthy? It might be different if he was a general or even an officer of some ranking who had a notable military career. But if you whittle down the condolences from various people and that he was "well liked" you are left with a non notable biography because he was only notable for one incident. He could be briefly mentioned in a Norwegian army or even Norwegian forces in Afghanistan article but this fails our biography requirements. If it doesn't then it would become acceptable to have an article on any soldier who died in a conflict regardless of ranking. Whilst there are reliable sources that exist mentioning this solider because he died, I really think this becomes invalid when it is based on One event. We are not a newspaper.

The article also claims: Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said that "While we always know that this mission can be dangerous, the loss of a Norwegian soldier really into me." Really?

What I propose we do is instead create an article Norwegian forces in Afghanistan and mention the event. That would be the appropriate thing to do amidst other information on the forces in the country and history which rarely gets reported in the world press. That would be more useful to an encyclopedia. ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 20:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. The fact that the Norwegian Wikipedia has a long article suggests that this death is particularly significant to Norway. This may be the first Norwegian combat death in Afghanistan or something close to the first, which would suggest rather more notability than would be the case for a Canadian or British soldier killed there. I agree, however, that Norwegian forces in Afghanistan would be worth creating. - Eastmain (talk • contribs)  21:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Tragic yes, notable no. GcSwRhIc (talk) 21:07, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Norway-related deletion discussions.
 * Delete, the Norwegian Wikipedia is not (and should not be) the benchmark of anything. Not a notable person; isn't more notable by representing a small country. Geschichte (talk) 21:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to Telemark Battalion. Norwegian forces going to international missions are often from this battalion, the soldier is from this battalion, and our article for the Telemark Battalion isn't too long. It can handle the extra. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:44, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * What "the extra"? The entire article? Geschichte (talk) 22:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * A summarized version could be mentioned in Telemark Battalion. However most of the condolences are unnecessary. A brief summary of what happened, Olsson's death and prime minister comment etc is all that is needed here. As a biography, this article is way off being notable. I recommend a redirect to Telemark Battalion and a brief summary in the history. I have included a brief summary in the Telemark Battalion now which includes all of the main points. That is the way an encyclopedia should cover it... ‡ Himalayan ‡  ΨMonastery 23:37, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Endorse User:Himalayan Explorer's moves here. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:28, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. per nom. Rettetast (talk) 22:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete This is not a reflection on Olsson, but Wikipedia is not a memorial, and as tragic as this soldier's death is, dying in combat does not make one notible according to Wikipedia policy. Rapier1 (talk) 23:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per Rapier1. With no disrespect to Mr Olsson and his family, he doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability criteria and there are many other instances of articles on casualties of recent wars being deleted on the same grounds. Nick-D (talk) 07:54, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect as Himalayan Explorer's edit of Telemark Battalion gives sufficient encyclopedic coverage of Olsson. Stephen! Coming... 10:14, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per Rapier1. I also support the idea of Norwegian forces in Afghanistan as a clearly notable subject, if anyone wishes to take it on. Tomas e (talk) 15:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. According to http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordmenn_drept_i_tjeneste_under_krigen_i_Afghanistan_%282001-%29 Olsson was the fifth Norwegian soldier to be killed in Afghanistan. - Eastmain (talk • contribs)  07:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to Telemark Battalion per above or, barring that, Delete (GregJackP (talk) 21:18, 6 February 2010 (UTC))
 * Delete. Does not satisfy any criteria at WP:MILPEOPLE. WWGB (talk) 04:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per NOTNEWS, other guidelines, and project specific recommendations. Some of the information could be added to Telemark Battalion, but certainly not a complete merge. Bongo  matic  03:00, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
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