Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clan Wolf


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The result was   merge to Clans (BattleTech). King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Clan Wolf

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Disputed prod. Prod was "No independent sources indicating notability", removed because "external links prove notability." I still don't see any independent reliable sources but reviewing the links,
 * 1 cannot load but because Tierranet looks like a typical domain provider, I'm not sure that's going to be a WP:RS.
 * 2 is a just a personal website, not a RS.
 * 3 seems to be a sort of unauthorized fan page about designing the figures.
 * 4 is a dead link now, so ignored.
 * The wayback machine shows this earlier version but that's still not a reliable source. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:13, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  01:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * 5 describes itself as the ""ComStar Historical Archives" which I thought could be notable until I realized that ComStar is just a part of the fictional universe and thus another anonymous fansite. Ricky81682 (talk) 18:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:BKD - articles concerning fictional entities must demonstrate that the subject has received significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources, and there's very little evidence for any out-of-universe coverage here. Claritas § 18:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Google Books search for "Clan Wolf" indicates there are a few mentions in printed sources (for some reason Wikipedia no longer renders GBooks search results properly :. Google search for "Clan Wolf" battletech -wikipedia yields ~50k results. Overall, I think the notability is given as it is a major fictional entity in a notable fictional universe (it is, most crucially, mentioned in several dozens of novels, not to mention several dozens of gaming books and games). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:54, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * BattleTech is a paper and dice RPG, and has a spin-off novel series, so there would be mentions in books, since it is in essence an entity created on paper (such as the DM guides for gamemasters). 76.66.195.196 (talk) 03:50, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to Clans (BattleTech), and dabify, since "Wolf Clan" and "Clan Wolf" is a very common construct in fiction. 76.66.195.196 (talk) 03:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:30, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge per above. -- Whpq (talk) 16:39, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge is the leading choice but would also support delete. Can't WP:verifynotability so a stand-alone article is inappropriate. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.