Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clare Butterfield


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 00:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Clare Butterfield

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Declined speedy, borderline case. Appears to fail WP:BIO, as none of the articles listed in the "references" section appear to be about Butterfield. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC) 
 * Keep This name is mentioned in 34 Newsbank articles in the state of Illinois, one in NJ, and one op-ed in The New York Times.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Mentions aren't enough for an encyclopedia article. A key word in SchuminWeb's statement is "about." Are any of the Newsbank articles actually about her? The NYTimes letter is by her, and the Star Ledger piece is about someone else. 160.39.213.152 (talk) 03:36, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Enough news sources Butterfield%22 faith&um=1 here  Chzz  ►  16:34, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. The Google News hits seem almost exclusively to involve the use of her as a source of quotations on environmental topics, in her role as director of Faith in Place, not to provide the sort of information that could be used to construct a biographical article. (The New Jersey article cited by TonyTheTiger above is just a mention in a piece about someone else, and his New York Times citation is just a letter to the editor that Butterfield wrote, not an "op-ed.") Since there appears to be a growing consensus that her organization is not itself notable, I don't think that her position within it makes her notable. Deor (talk) 20:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually in looking through sources for Faith in Place I found more than enough to build Bio. She also has profiles on a few websites so that really isn't a problem here. She is widely quoted because she seems to be the goto inter-denominational religious person on environmental issues in regards to sustainable farming, conservationism, stewardship and clean energy within a religious context. -- Banj e  b oi   01:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I fail to see establishment of notability within the article, I fail to see sources strong enough to support WP:BIO in existence. If someone seriously does their research, a rewritten article may be possible in some universe...but when the lead section cannot explain why it is worth reading her biography, it strongly suggests that the article can be written from scratch if needed just as well as if this article was cleaned up. -Verdatum (talk) 23:34, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe that's the case here, I came to this article from her organizational article which was a bad copyvio website promo mess. It's much better now. And this woman is behind it all.
 * Keep. I'm working on rewrite of the organization article and there are simply dozens upon dozens of interviews with her, mostly in religious-focussed media so WP:CSB may be at play here. There does already seem to be sources sourced here as well. -- Banj e  b oi   21:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. Just came across this award nomination article about her that may help here. -- Banj e  b oi   22:05, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete She might fit in an article on Ecotheology, but she isn't notable enough on her own.--Sloane (talk) 23:48, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Just found this which also lists her on the advisory counsel for a religious curriculum guide. Somewhat minor but shows she's involved and important and knowledgeable enough to be involved on that level. -- Banj e  b oi   01:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Despite much effort by Banjeboi, we still only have WP:OR (claims by editors that subject is notable because subject is mentioned in various places). All the refs appear to be news media mentioning the subject with no suggestion of notability. Johnuniq (talk) 10:50, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per Johnuniq. Concrete evidence of meeting WP:BIO has not been adduced; spamming lists of inaccessible newspapers where articles about this person may or may not have appeared does not convince. Stifle (talk) 15:28, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


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