Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clarion Alley


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep without prejudice as to any merge. No one is suggesting deletion. The nom proposes merge and redirect, which is not a deletion. This is an editorial decision, which should be resolved on the relevant article page(s).  Ty  06:47, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Clarion Alley

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This San Francisco street is notable for only one thing: the Clarion Alley Mural Project, which there is already an article about. The article is therefore a needless duplication. The article should be reduced to a redirect to Clarion Alley Mural Project, and any usable information from this article moved to that one. Peter G Werner (talk) 17:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect to Clarion Alley Mural Project per nom. Toddst1 (talk) 17:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hang on The article was created because links from both Clarion Alley and Clarion Alley Mural Project were being redirected to the Mission School article, which I found quite problematic. Balmy Alley is listed as Balmy Alley.  The Clarion Alley Mural Project is a different beast because the Mural Project is a collective that does other work in other sites.  The actual alley is still a notable geographic place, while the Mural Project has the name of the Alley because of its origins there, but is much more as an organization.  Further, the geographic space has undergone changes and registers as a symbol of gentrification, as well as inclusiveness and Mission District culture.  This article needs to be expanded, but I don't think it should be deleted. Cleshne (talk) 18:02, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: If this alley is in itself notable (independent of the mural project) then you could say the same of the majority of the streets in the city of San Francisco or any other large city. Peter G Werner (talk) 20:35, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:24, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:24, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I have noticed that some streets have entries. This street has become a landmark because of the murals, but it has an interesting history as a location too. The Clarion Alley Mural Project is an organization that has done work and substantial projects not associated with the location, so it's difficult to merge the articles  - if they were to merge, it seems better to redirect the mural project to the Clarion Alley page, which would match the Balmy Alley format (similar street with murals lining it, but without the collective that does off site work)Cleshne (talk) 04:32, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * CommentI just attempted to merge the articles to Clarion Alley. Not sure that works, so reversed it. Cleshne (talk) 19:33, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Speedy Keep The nomination wants to merge and this can't be done if the article is deleted. Colonel Warden (talk) 21:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.