Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clarissa Ocampo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Skomorokh 13:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Clarissa Ocampo

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Delete - This article has sat for a while (half a month or so) without the notability concerns being addressed. Irbisgreif (talk) 03:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 15:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions.  —Bluemask (talk) 06:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Then you should address them. This is a collaboratively-written project.  It is your responsibility, as much as it is anyone else's, to look for sources yourself to determine whether the notability criteria are satisfied.  And you should do that before coming to AFD.  See User:Uncle G/Wikipedia triage for the conventional process. Uncle G (talk) 18:57, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, how many ways can you be so wrong in just a few words? Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 23:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep article advances a substantial notability argument and is of decent quality. This way good articles can start. Wefa (talk) 22:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Agree with nominator. TheCoffee (talk) 05:17, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete article could be advanced by adding additional citation or a major edit, but as it stands it should be deleted. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 12:58, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

*Keep or merge to Joseph Estrada --- this person was one of the key witnesses in former President Estrada's impeachment trial (which later led to his removal in office, albeit indirectly). I must admit that since the impeachment happened in 2001, information about Ocampo's role in the trial may be hard to come by in the Internet (that's how it goes, unfortunately, with some Philippine-related topics). But information about her did appear in the print newspapers, and in fact, she even left one remarkable quote that became a highlight of the trial (if I'm not mistaken, she said "I was one foot away from President Estrada", referring to her claim that she saw the president sign an important document). It's impossible for any contemporary Filipino journalist to not know about this information. (I do hope I could manage to get additional references about this elsewhere.) If any such information is hard to come by, then I'm for merging it with the Joseph Estrada article. --- Tito Pao (talk) 09:53, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Tito Pao, I think this is a different Clarissa Ocampo. :p TheCoffee (talk) 13:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Whoops, my bad :P Changing my vote in a few... --- Tito Pao (talk) 00:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak keep - In the local classical music scene, Clarissa Ocampo is making a name for herself, appearing in many performances. She has performed at the CCP among other places. However, I must admit that this article needs a whole lot more references than are available online. Besides, if any, the legendary Filipina opera singers such as Isang Tapales, Fides Cuyugan Asensio and many others should have their own articles first before this one, as they have arguably stronger cases for notability. --- Tito Pao (talk) 00:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.