Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clark Allen


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Naypta ☺ &#124; ✉ talk page &#124; 20:31, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Clark Allen

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Biography of an artist, musician and actor, not properly referenced as passing our notability standards for any of those endeavours. The notability claims here essentially boil down to the fact that he and his work existed, with no evidence that he achieved the kind of distinctions (e.g. noteworthy awards) needed to make his work encyclopedically noteworthy. And when it comes to the footnotes, one of them is about a completely different person with a coincidentally similar name releasing his debut album a decade after this one died, meaning it's not relevant to establishing this person's notability at all, while the other source just briefly namechecks this Clark Allen's existence in the process of being about something else, which is not enough to get him over the notability bar all by itself. Bearcat (talk) 21:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 21:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 21:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 21:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 21:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment I removed the link about a different person and have added a few reviews and links. There is a bit more to sort through in newspapers. I think it'll at least be a weak keep because he will just meet WP:GNG, but I won't vote until I've got more. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 23:15, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I do not see much of anything in a web/news/books search. Perhaps there is more in an archival newspaper search.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 00:24, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Does not pass NARTIST that is for certain. The article states he was in Vincent Price's personal collection but that is meaningless. Price owned tens of thousands of works of art and it is not the same as being in major museum collections. Whether his music or acting was notable, I can't find anything online, but maybe as mentioned above something could turn up in newspapers. Netherzone (talk) 00:23, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as meets WP:GNG and probably WP:CREATIVE (#3) too. I've added more than ten sources to the article so far. He was a musician (no albums, it would seem) and business owner of some note. There's more in newspaper archives that I haven't examined, and I imagine he may be in some local history books for his co-creation and management of El Cid. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 02:11, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment to the closing admin: there is another keep vote, by an IP editor, on the article talk page.DiamondRemley39 (talk) 16:02, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 19:07, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY, DiamondRemley39's addition of sources demonstrates notability. — Toughpigs (talk) 02:44, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY. The article has been updated somewhat. His work sells between 17k to 30k per piece, so a collectable artist. I removed that basic Proquest search url in the lede. Never put a raw search url in an article.  scope_creep Talk  12:14, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY. Great job. Bearian (talk) 02:01, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.