Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clark County Courier


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Clark County Courier

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WP:N Ormr2014 (talk) 21:36, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Small rural county's main newspaper of record; not much in the article, but also a sense that WP:BEFORE wasn't done, and no real reason for deletion was presented.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:36, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep I started the page. I've cited the newspaper a couple times, and thought it should have an article. Also, it was included in List of newspapers in South Dakota and List of newspapers in the United States as a red link, which made me believe it was desired. --Bp0 (talk) 02:52, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The reason given was lack of notability per WP:N; there are literally thousands of "small rural newspapers" and the fact that even some pretty large papers do not meet the criteria for inclusion here...  Ormr2014 | Talk
 * Your point being? Those 'small rural newspapers' cover local stories of no interest to larger papers in Pierre or Sioux Falls; we have articles about the smallest of unincorporated communities on this site, so it's only appropriate to have the same standard for the media that cover them.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 02:43, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Dakota-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:20, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:20, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep, and thanks User:Bp0 for starting the article. It is extremely useful to have newspaper page to link to, a reader following a story citing the Courier can, at a click, discover that this is a real paper, that serves a small town. It's a new page, give the page a chance to grow.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:13, 13 May 2015 (UTC)


 * My point,, is that it takes much more than simply being a newspaper to justify notability and the Clark County Courier has not established notability in any way whatsoever. WP:BEFORE|Ormr2014]] (talk) 12:05, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 * has a point, when a newspaper has existed for over a century, a WP:BEFORE search is almost certain to turn up sources., you might want to so a little more searching, and consider withdrawing this.E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:48, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Prior to nominating the article I did searches in general, news and so on and went through several pages of results. All I found were a couple self-published excerpts about the newspaper, some Yellowpages ads, a Facebook profile, a couple local directories and a bunch of totally unrelated stuff. If someone can dig up some valid sources that illustrate notability, I will happily withdraw this nomination. But otherwise, it stands. Ormr2014 (talk) 15:40, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I do take your point about contemporary newspapers, it is entirely possible for someone to start a newspaper (print or web) and have it fold after a few issues or even years without attaining notability. It is, however, impossible for a newspaper to exist in an American town for over a century without RS of its existence. I believe that a listing by the South Dakota Newspaper Association (sdna.com) validates this article sufficiently.  As does the fact that a quick search shows that stories in the Courier are used as reliable sources by other Dakota papers.  I did, however, add a couple of other sources.  Papers this old always turn up in stuffy, old-time histories, Gazeteers, and state legislative registers.  I would, btw, be extremely intrigued if anyone actually found a century-old American small town newspaper that could not be sourced.  I didn't mean to give you a hard time here.  It just seemed like an AFD that didn't really need to happen.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:41, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Nomination Withdrawn - I love those old newspapers! They seem so genuine compared to the newspapers of today. I looked at the sources you cited and while I'm not 100% certain they prove notability by Wikipedia standards, they do substantiate that the Clark County Courier is historically significant. So I'm withdrawing my nomination. If someone with more authority than me could close out this AFD I'd appreciate it. Ormr2014 (talk) 16:51, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not a matter of authority as anyone can close AfDs. It's just a matter of avoiding the appearance of a conflict of interest. Simple as that. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 20:27, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


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