Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Claudia LaSalle


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to List of Macross characters. Noted that there is an analogous character in Robotech, but that character has a different name. No? So this page should redirect to the Macrosse list and the Robotech connection can be dealt with by a wikilinked cross-reference. This close offers no opinion on whether or not the two lists should be merged, that is an editorial decision, but there is no pressing need for it as a result of this AFD. SpinningSpark 18:31, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Claudia LaSalle

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Since my original merge proposal was declined, well, it's time for AfD, as suggested by the person who declined it. I suggest a soft deletion, by redirecting to the List of Macross characters. This is a supporting anime characters with no references except primary ones, and as such fails WP:GNG. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:55, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. North America1000 23:36, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. North America1000 23:36, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * Selective Merge to List of Macross characters, which will improve the latter article. North America1000 23:39, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Problem is that the same Anime is portrayed twice, as Macross and Robotech, with relatively different storylines and characterizations. Does this character exist under this name in both?  If not, no problem with the selective merge per NA1000.  If so, I'd prefer if we could find a way to harmonize the lists of minor characters between Macross and Robotech so we don't either keep a bunch of NN content, nor have singular redirects that don't encompass both adaptations of the source material. Thoughts? Jclemens (talk) 02:19, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The article already contains a link to her Robotech counterpart, which itself is a redirect to the Robotech character list. With that in mind a merge or redirect to the Macross list would seem appropriate if that is the outcome (note: that isn't my vote).SephyTheThird (talk) 11:52, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


 * The Robotech / Macross character lists need to be unified. I don't see why Claudia LaSalle and Claudia Grant couldn't point to the same character in a list and it retain all the information from this article that is being AFD'ed. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:17, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Why do they need to be unified? Robotech is a bigger series than Macross due to how it was created and pretty much are treated separately across the board. Instead of a single complex article, two simpler articles would be easier to achieve. After all, for many people the series they are looking for is Robotech, not Macross.SephyTheThird (talk) 05:35, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete or merge. The sources look mostly like fluff, so nothing seems extremely relevant in merging. TTN (talk) 18:20, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:46, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Rather than nuking potential good information someone should merge the character lists per Angus. This page is not a BLP, so there is no harm in keeping it while this process is done. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:49, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * So you are voting to keep a page that you suggest should be merged? A merge doesn't necessarily have to be carried out immediately if there is evidence someone is working on it or intending to do it.SephyTheThird (talk) 05:35, 18 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep and merge the character lists per AngusWOOF before determining which ones can comfortably fit in the combined list and which can't. Sources currently here indicate that there is value in keeping the information, even if it needs to be cut down a bit. Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:27, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Except all the sources are from official websites or fanbooks from the time of release. All they do is back up the information stated, not that the information has value or that the subject is notable, failing to address the concerns raised. SephyTheThird (talk) 05:36, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge Personally I would support an outright deletion as I'm not convinced it is a likely search term. This is a character that despite a couple of important scenes during one part of the story is essentially a minor character (and those scenes are more about reactions to another character). However given the issues with the Macross character articles as a whole starting point for improvement is needed. That said, the sources are replaceable with third party alternatives.SephyTheThird (talk) 05:35, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   19:57, 24 August 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.