Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clawson Toads


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. PhilKnight (talk) 00:33, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Clawson Toads

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This is an article about a fantasy baseball team. It does not appear to meet notability guidelines. Here is its page on ESPN:. The owner of the group is identified as "Baztastik"; the creator/primary contributor to the article is User:Baztastik. That seems like a conflict of interest. NatureBoyMD (talk) 18:42, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * "Conflict of interest", NatureBoy? Please explain this charge. Nothing is being gained from this article except for information on the Champion Clawson Toads.  The article only states facts.  There is not one opinion in it.db (talk) 14:23, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually regardless of the WP:COI issues and the article "only states facts" the article fails our Notability and  Verifiability policies and these are the issues that need to be discussed at this page. Jasynnash2 (talk) 15:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment The page's author blanked this AfD then replaced it with "This article is valid. It doesn't violate any rules. Please investigate NatureBoyMD. He appears to be a busybody with an axe to grind.". Ten Pound Hammer Farfel  and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps) 20:48, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  23:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  23:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Eject. Google must have an ax to grind, also. 12 non-wiki ghits, none of which show the article meets WP:Notability; 0 gnews hits.-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  23:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Let's not go down this road!  —Wknight94 (talk) 00:08, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete despite claims on the talk page there is no sign of notability or verifiability for the articles subject. Jasynnash2 (talk) 08:52, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Love 'em or hate 'em, the Toads exist. Perhaps the haters have experienced the Toads' wrath?  This page is nearly two years old... why the sudden push to have it removed?  Hot.genius (talk) 19:54, 22 July 2008 (UTC)  — Hot.genius (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete - lacks significant coverage in reliable secondary sources as required by Wikipedia's notability guideline. BRMo (talk) 22:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - A wonderful article honoring a fabulous organization db (talk) 05:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * For clarity, the above comment was in fact added by User:Baztastik, the article's creator -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Why would this be deleted? It isn't obscene.  The team is real - they are in my league.  They won first place in the nation a few years ago and were even featured on CNN. Pumpus (talk) 11:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC) — Pumpus (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * In what way was this team "featured on CNN"? The article says nothing about this, although it does feature a copyright-violating screencap of an unidentified person walking past in the background behind a CNN reporter seemingly wearing a T-shirt with the team's logo on - that's hardly "being featured".  My dad's car was once visible in the background of a BBC reporter's piece to camera, but I'm hardly going to start an article about it...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, the article now includes the CNN appearance under the heading 'National Fame'. Furthermore, if you read the info on the CNN screenshot, there is no copyright violation:  "This image is a screenshot of a copyrighted television program or station ID. As such, the copyright for it is most likely owned by the company or corporation that produced it. It is believed that the use of a limited number of web-resolution screenshots for identification and critical commentary on the station ID or program and its contents on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law."db (talk) 13:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - absolutely no mention in reliable sources, and nothing to confirm that this fantasy sports team was the subject of coverage by CNN (as opposed to the person behind the team happening to stroll past in the background of a news report which was almost certainly about something else entirely) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Simply not notable (good try with the screencap, though). -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 00:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete As stated above, issues with notability, RS, etc. Not a can or worms worth opening. - Masonpatriot (talk) 17:25, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


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