Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clemen Chiang


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Star  Mississippi  02:45, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Clemen Chiang

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. Puff article. Refs are profiles, blogs, dead links, dissertion, primary. No significant secondary coverage. Fails WP:BIO.  scope_creep Talk  14:21, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Singapore.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 14:34, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Quick question: is there no hope for draftification? There's no draftification move in the edit history. – robertsky (talk) 14:38, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Well that is the new rules, it can be drafted if that is the decision of the Afd, its certainly within the time frame for it. I sent it to Afd as I examined the first two blocks of references, and they were woeful. I suspect that they're all in there already but they're very very poor. The 15 day rules applies on new articles, but its well past that. If you think its needing drafted, please say so.   scope_creep Talk  14:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:03, 4 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –  333-blue  at 06:04, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep I created the article and I was under impression it would easily fulfill the notability guidelines. Probably the nominator looked only into the initial blocks of references. There is significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject. There are a few sources directly related to him that I used to add some personal information about him. That information (like education, personal life) is obviously not the type that would give the idea of notability and not used with that intent. Most of the sources are with WP:SIGCOV in mind and there is plenty of them. To put it briefly, the notable coverage about him is related to co-founding CozyCot, founding Spiking and bringing Dîner en Blanc to Singapore/Asia. The coverage about the last thing was to some extent increased by some controversy about the way he handled the inclusion of local food, but it looked too trivial to me to mention it in the article. For example, the coverage in Wall Street Journal is focused on the other general aspects around this event. I searched online to see if there is new coverage about him and I added some articles from Forbes and Entrepreneur. Manzzoku (talk) 16:32, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Post up some decent references, so we can examine them, to see if he is notable. Three per WP:THREE will do.   scope_creep Talk  11:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * For example,
 * There is a more comprehensive article about the initial 2012 Diner en Blanc, with the controversies about the initial rejection of local hawker food (I am not sure if this would be too trivial to include in the article), but it is behind paywall:
 * Manzzoku (talk) 11:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Manzzoku (talk) 11:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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