Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cleveland Circle and Reservoir (MBTA stations)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was withdrawn by nominator. Mackensen (talk) 12:39, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Cleveland Circle and Reservoir (MBTA stations)

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These are two separate stations; while geographically close, they are not considered part of a single station complex. Notably, the official MBTA map shows no connection between them. All useful content has now been moved to the separate station articles (Cleveland Circle (MBTA station) and Reservoir (MBTA station)), and all internal wikilinks appropriately redirected. Article was dePRODed by User:Thryduulf, a user with significant experience with railroad-related articles, with an edit summary of: "There has been content at this title since 2006 so deletion would needlessly break many links. Some form of outline article or dab page would be better". I'm not sure that such a page would be useful; outside Wikipedia, the stations are always referred to separately. At most it should be a dab page to deal with any remaining external links from outside Wikipedia. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:19, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn by nominator as consensus is to replace with one-sentence dab. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:05, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:26, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:26, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Don't delete. My concern is that if there is nothing at this title, then we are intentionally breaking 7 years of bookmarks and incoming links from external webpages. Users will continue to arrive here looking for content about one or both stations, and we should provide them a way of accessing the content we have at the new locations. Whether they are best served by an outline article, a dab page, a redirect to one of the stations with a hatnote to the other, or a redirect to some other place that links to both I'm not certain, but none of these options require or even benefit from deletion. Additionally, there are also attribution issues that require the edit history to be kept - see WP:CWW and WP:SPLIT. Thryduulf (talk) 17:15, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Replace with dab. I'd best own to being responsible for this, as I created this article back in 2006. With seven years more experience of editing, I now think that was a mistake and I should have created two separate articles. So what is to be done?. To be honest it isn't exactly the most earth shatterlingly exciting topic; I suspect that there will not be many bookmarks and incoming links, so a delete would not be the end of the world. But I think on the whole a very minimalistic dab page may be safer. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 17:36, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Replace with dab. Leaving this title with a dab page pointing to both stations seems harmless and drama free. Maybe include the first sentence or two from the nominators's statement. If nothing else, it will discourage a new editor from recreating the article while preserving edit history. I'd encourage the nominator to accept this option and withdraw the nomination. (see the end of the section WP:AFDHOW for the right way to do this).--agr (talk) 22:21, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Based on what's being said here, one-sentence dab seems reasonable enough. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:33, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Per WP:AFDHOW: "To withdraw a nomination, add a note saying "Withdrawn by nominator" immediately below your nomination statement at the top of the discussion, and give a brief explanation and sign it." If you could do that, we can close this and move on, as we all seem to be in agreement.--agr (talk) 18:11, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Replace with dab pending a proper split of the article into two their respective pages. In all fairness, the stations are no more than a two minute walk from each other, and Chestnut Hill Avenue on the B-Line is not more than five minutes away (a little more going uphill from Reservoir), so that station could be linked into this article also. Empty trams go from Reservoir onto all three lines. -Bhtpbank (talk) 10:39, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.