Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clifford Prinsloo


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The result was redirect to List of Boland representative cricketers. Liz Read! Talk! 23:35, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Clifford Prinsloo

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Subject fails WP:SPORTCRIT due to lack of significant coverage. A search per WP:BEFORE did not turn up any significant coverage. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 08:47, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Cricket. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 08:47, 29 April 2022 (UTC)


 * At worst this is a redirect to List of Boland representative cricketers - an obvious ATD exists, there are various reasons for redirecting, the name is clearly unusual etc... The subject would have met the version of NCRIC which previously existed: there are some passing mentions I could immediately find in internet news sources, but nothing particularly in depth that's obvious and he falls into that awkward era where it's not generally possible to easily access news archives but when online news sources are rarely archived, especially from South Africa - he's known to have played for Brackenfell CC which has tweeted something about him in Afrikaans, so it's also possible that sources may be in that language. On the whole I would suggest that sources will probably exist, but are unlikely to be found easily without access of hard copy archives. Right now I'd struggle to argue keep, but I honestly can see no reason whatsoever that I would ever argue delete - this is as clear a redirect candidate as I can recall and I'm struggling to understand why this has come to AfD when such an obvious ATD exists. Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:25, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect per the above.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:53, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:58, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Boland representative cricketers I'm also on redirect for this one. Obviously the guy exists and played for a few years for  Boland, but as BST says this was a period where coverage for cricketers of this level in SA was more limited, and with Afrikaans likely being the dominant language for sources if they were to exist it makes them more difficult to find. Redirect is perfect in this situation as it recognises that he played a bit, and would have passed old notability guidelines, but there's currently not enough there, but also gives us the opportunity to re-add the article is suitable sourcing emerges. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 08:18, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Boland representative cricketers per WP:PRESERVE which is editing policy whereas SIGCOV is merely a guideline. As BST rightly says, there is an obvious ATD here when the guy played in SIXTEEN top-class matches and therefore has notability potential. This is the second bad nomination by Ficaia that I've found in the last few minutes. There is absolutely nothing to stop Ficaia from doing a straight redirect themselves if they really can't find anything, instead of bringing it here and wasting other people's time. If the guy had played in only a Boland state competition, assuming such is not top-class, then the article should of course be deleted, but that is not the case. I have actually voted redirect because the consensus is heading that way but, if I had been the first to find this AfD, I would have recommended keep with a refimprove tag.  NGS  Shakin' All Over 11:06, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Played 3 first-class and 13 List A matches; in one of his List A matches he made a century. Meets WP:GNG, and sources likely exist in Afrikaans (we are not an English language sourced only encyclopedia). StickyWicket (talk) 14:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


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