Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clifton report


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Clifton report

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cat=I Nomopbs (talk) 02:12, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Reasons I nominate for deletion

I think editing the Clifton report article to fix its shortcomings is a lost cause for the reason I express below: Anyway, since it was never the name of a report, and the article is ridiculously confusing and really about a man, not a report, I nominate it for deletion on the grounds that it cannot be fixed. It's better to start over from scratch if someone really wants to write about any of these topics or reports. -- Nomopbs (talk) 02:24, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) The Clifton report article really looks like it was created as an attempt to write about Merritt Clifton without running afoul of biographies of living persons policy. Though it is titled as if it's about a newsletter, when you read it, it's like a history of M. Clifton activities across the decades.
 * 2) A google search for "clifton report" brings up nothing to indicate it is something being done in present time, and neither does a search of www.animals24-7.org come up with any hits for "clifton report". The wiki article makes it sound like it's currently being done/published. Okay, maybe they forgot to put in an end date. However, a google search shows that the "Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada" report (also mentioned in the article) may have stopped being done (or published) around 2007, but this article was created in 2011. So what gives?
 * 3) The wiki article says the Clifton Report is published by Animal People, Inc., but a search of Animal People, Inc.'s website for "merritt clifton" only finds two articles where he is mentioned, but is not an editor or author there. So that's past tense. And there are no hits for "clifton report", either.
 * 4) Though the wiki article for Animal People, Inc. says it was founded in 1992, there are references in Clifton Report mentioning 1979 and 1982, which are both over a decade before the formation of the alleged publisher of the paper. Again, is this an article about Merritt Clifton or the Clifton Report?
 * 5) I already removed the "Criticism" section because it was all about Merritt Clifton and his current activities at Animals 24/7, which is NOT what the "Clifton Report" article was about. (Just more evidence that the purpose of the page was to get around WP:BLP, or at least NOT about the Clifton Report.)
 * 6) I gave up editing the page in favor of just putting my findings here on the Talk page and nominating the article for deletion instead.
 * 7) As an afterthought, I attempted to get further information by sending an email to Merritt Clifton through his current website. The answer I received was almost as confusing as the Clifton report article is. What I was able to glean was the "Clifton Report" was a name coined by media to VARIOUS reports by Clifton, and never to any non-Clifton reports published after Clifton left Animal People, Inc., and none were ever named "Clifton Report" by Clifton himself (it was the media's name for something, or several somethings). I did not get any clarification whether or not any of the several reports mentioned in the current Clifton Report article were ever dubbed "Clifton Report" by media or whether it was other reports named thusly.

Article nominated for deletion. Tagging the creator, all editors who edited this article in the last 12 months, and those who posted on the Talk page. Nomopbs (talk) 02:35, 6 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete: Per nom. I also could not find anything about this report, and I would go so far as to further question the notability of Animal People, the publishers of the report, itself. Comment: This is the most thorough nomination for an article I've seen, let alone for one whose subject's lack of notability is so non-contentious. Props.  TheTechnician27  (Talk page)  09:24, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: Subject fails WP:GNG. Animal People or a bio of Merritt Clifton might pass GNG with more sourcing, but this specific report certainly is not notable enough. PearlSt82 (talk) 13:50, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 21:43, 9 June 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.