Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clint Eastwood bibliography


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Sam Sailor Talk! 05:04, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Clint Eastwood bibliography

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The article is a list of five books, four of which are already listed at Clint Eastwood. With no edits in over 20 months (and only three in total), the article doesn't look likely to change anytime soon. It's notability is questionable; I don't think a separate article on this topic is necessary. Perhaps a redirect to Clint Eastwood would be more suitable. – Rhain1999  (talk to me) 02:29, 25 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete or redirect per nom. The section in the main article is much more complete. The fifth book could be added there if it's significant. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:49, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. The two bibliographies are now significantly different. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:56, 3 November 2015 (UTC)


 * redirect. DangerDogWest (talk) 03:02, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Struck content from confirmed sock above, per WP:SOCKSTRIKE. North America1000 03:30, 31 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Not enough to justify a seperate article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:35, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. sst✈ 06:04, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. sst✈ 06:04, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. sst✈ 06:04, 25 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Redirect per nom. sst✈ 06:05, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep The nomination is proposing merger which is not deletion. This discussion is already larger than the page in question and so is just making matters worse.  Please see WP:BEFORE and WP:ATD.  Note also that Google Books lists over 200 books with Clint Eastwood in the title so this current draft is just a start.   I have just doubled the number of entries and there's plenty more out there.  For example, see ''Clint Eastwood: A Bibliography of Materials in the UC Berkeley Library.  Andrew D. (talk) 11:07, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * , SK#1 has changed—it's fine for nominators to propose redirect/merge instead of deletion. czar  16:47, 25 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep Per Andrew D. In fact I'd encourage more bibliographies on major actors like this as they make wikipedia a better resource. the job of wikipedia is to give people access to the world's information and links to books with isbn numbers makes it valuable for researchers for finding material on a given subject. Most of those film director bibliographies need development but I haven't got around to it.. They're notable directors, most of which can be expanded. This url tool will make it quicker to expand.♦ Dr. Blofeld  11:51, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep for reasons cited above. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 12:10, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Comments/questions, does this article meet WP:LISTN? ie. " Notability of lists (whether titled as "List of Xs" or "Xs") is based on the group. One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources.." At Wikipedia:WikiProject Bibliographies an example given is Bibliography of fly fishing with 3 books shown that discusses fly fishing books as a group. Are there similar books available that discuss Eastwood books as a group? Also, comments about there being lots of books out there about Eastwood which would overwhelm the actor's article so we should have a standalone article have a look at WP:LSC - "it is especially important that inclusion be based on reliable sources given with inline citations for each item." and "When establishing membership criteria for a list, ask yourself if the following are true: ... Would I expect to see this person or thing on a list of X?" Coolabahapple (talk) 16:21, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, this passes WP:LISTN because bibliographies of this sort appear in works such as  Persistence of Double Vision: essays on Clint Eastwood,  Clint Eastwood: A cultural production and Clint Eastwood: a biography. Andrew D. (talk) 17:39, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, this is therefore a Keep as the above shows it meets WP:LISTN. May I suggest the above books are incorporated into the article either as further reading or as references to some of the books listed, as appropriate. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:05, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. North America1000 01:52, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  19:25, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - I just incorporated material from the Clint Eastwood bibliography/further reading sections as well as several others I found. It's clearly a notable topic per the WikiProject Bibliography guidelines and WP:SALAT. There are sources which cover works about Eastwood together and many, many works about him that would overload the article about him and eventually require spinning off. I do sort of get nominating it at the point at which it seemed like an impoverished version of a section of the article, but at this point it seems like a clear keep. would you reconsider your delete !vote based on the expansions made since then? &mdash;  Rhododendrites  talk  \\ 17:19, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


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