Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clint Eastwood in the 1950s


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. The result was Delete. There is clear consensus here that the page shouldn't exist. There is a reasonable argument, not refuted, that some of the material may need to be merged. There is the obvious fact that all the material cannot be merged. Therefore, consider this a "delete", but with a delay involved so that any necessary merging can be done beforehand. Once this has been handled to everyone's satisfaction, tag the page for speedy deletion, and link this discussion. As an aside, while it is true that AfD is not the best place to request a merger, a merger is a reasonable outcome at AfD, and the entirely of this page is obviously not viable for a merger. !voting to keep for procedural reasons isn't really a !vote to keep. Linking a bunch of tangentially related guidelines is not helpful. Vanamonde (Talk) 14:58, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Clint Eastwood in the 1950s

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Redundant and non-encyclopedic. No other major actor (e.g., see Al Pacino and Dustin Hoffman has multiple pages covering each film in depth. In any case, everything in the film summary below is covered in the film article itself. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 05:12, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 05:12, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment Instead of doing these individually you could’ve consolidated them into one AfD...Trillfendi (talk) 05:29, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:16, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:17, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment Uh uh. I know what you're thinking. "Did he list six articles at AfD or only five?" Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself.... "  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 11:45, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * There are actually seven of these pages but only five have been nominated. "Thought I was having trouble with my adding.  It's all right now." Andrew D. (talk) 16:18, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep It's this discussion that is redundant and non-encyclopedic (but Lugnuts' joke is a a good one).  Clint Eastwood is obviously a huge topic but we don't need six more pages to discuss how best to organise it.  See WP:ATD; WP:BEFORE; WP:LIGHTBULB; WP:NOTPAPER; WP:PRESERVE; &c. Andrew D. (talk) 16:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Excessive details running riot, e.g. "Eastwood and his wife moved into an apartment at Villa Sands at 4040 Arch Drive off Ventura Boulevard to be closer to the Universal lot, also occupied by fellow Universal actresses Gia Scala and Lili Kardell." This is more appropriate for a book than a Wikipedia article. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:32, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. These pages were reviewed in 2012 at Articles for deletion/Early life and work of Clint Eastwood; the result was a strong consensus to keep.  Consensus can change, but I don't see a reason why it should in this case.  As multiple commenters pointed out, the topic is notable and these are legitimate subpages, so article deletion is not a realistic option here, even if merger might be.  AfD isn't the right place to discuss what is more properly a question of how much content is "too much" and how many spinoff pages are too many. --Arxiloxos (talk) 20:31, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete This level of detail works with a book, not an encyclopedia article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:58, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete/Merge Absurd level of detail. The main Clint Eastwood is quite comprehensive already and this is not an appropriate use of splitting and summary style. Just direct readers to the single book this is wholly sourced to, don't turn this into an entire book by itself. Reywas92Talk 00:58, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep per Andrew Davidson. This is an editorial problem snd should never have been brought to AFD. These articles should have been tagged for merger, and then discussed at Talk:Clint Eastwood in order to go about that business in the propper manner. Obviously, there should not be this many pages about Clint Eastwood, but there's a lot of material here that could be of some value, either in the film articles or weeded down to a few additions to improve the central article. I strongly urge an admin to close this discussion and direct the nominator to tag the articles for merger and begin a merger conversation with editors interested in tackling what would be a fairly large collaborative project. There are too many editoriall decisions to be made here to be simply solved by an AFD.4meter4 (talk) 04:45, 1 October 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.