Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clinton, Mississippi hostage standoff


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Tone 20:38, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Clinton, Mississippi hostage standoff

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sadly, another shooting but this is pretty MILL for the US and in the grand scheme of things hasn’t received the necessary coverage to meet inclusion and likely won’t. Also WP:NOTNEWS Praxidicae (talk) 18:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 18:45, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 18:45, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mississippi-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 18:45, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment. Right now, this is a breaking news event that is way, way premature for a Wikipedia article.  Authorities are still trying to figure out what happened.  There are few, if any, encyclopedic facts not already covered in List of mass shootings in the United States in 2019. • Gene93k (talk) 04:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, coverage at List of mass shootings in the United States in 2019 is enough as of now. Home Lander (talk) 20:57, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. A noteworthy, yet unfortunate event with multiple reliable third party sources. Could definitely use expansion but meets notability criteria. Tinton5 (talk) 05:00, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It's awfully WP:RAPID for a deletion decision. (for that matter, it was an overly RAPID article creation.) Urging User:TrueFalcon to return and improve the article.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:16, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 19:15, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a newspaper! It’s only been 9 days. If this sustains coverage over time I could see refunding it. Trillfendi (talk) 19:33, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete local coverage mainly. Suspect dead, domestic dispute. Fairly WP:MILL and unlikely to have any long term impact except on the families and friends of those killed. Also unlikely to be the only hostage situation ever in this town so title is not very good. Legacypac (talk) 19:52, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete for failing WP:CRIME and WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:03, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS for lacking longterm notability. Captain Eek  Edits Ho Cap'n! 23:55, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. NOTNEWS not relevant as this is not a routine event. However, when I evaluate coverage here (for a possible WP:RAPID !vote) - I see this being in the national news cycle close to the event (16 Feb), and essentially no coverage from 21 Feb (and even the tail end - is local news). Thus - we do not, at this time, have persisting coverage and we are dealing with a single news cycle item. My own personal crystal ball tells me (after the requsite dusting, etc.) that as the suspect (as well as all of the victims - no injuries) is dead, future coverage is less likely than in an event with surviving victims and perpetrators (personal stories, trial, etc.). Icewhiz (talk) 08:29, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * delete coverage has not been sustained.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:07, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Putting my two cents in as I am the one who created this article. There are plenty of other articles on Wikipedia that have little if any news coverage a week or more after the event. For instance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancún_nightclub_shooting. "Wikipedia is not a newspaper" is not a valid arguement as this was not something that just happens everyday. It is also possible that more information about this incident may come to light in the future. Wikipedia has plenty of articles that cover "news stories", I sincerely feel like I am being picked on because I am new to editing on Wikipedia.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomersTruth Falcon (talk) 11:41, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * No one has commented about anything other than the content. As far as the article goes, I think you're incorrect that "this is not something that just happens every day." This is a pretty standard occurrence throughout the US and other places. I don't see how something that has only received, passing, minor coverage is notable and I'll also note the following: 2/25, 2/27, 2/25, 2/23 and that's just the US, in the last week. WP:OSE might be worth a read too.Praxidicae (talk) 12:20, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I do not see the relevance in those news stories at all, everyone survived in those. Please show me how 5 people being killed in a hostage situation is a "standard occurrence" in the US. Maybe it is in other parts of the world but it is most definitely not a normal thing in the US.Truth Falcon (talk) 09:04, 1 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as NOTNEWS. If newspapers are still reporting on this in six or 12 months, or if it becomes the subject of a book or film, we can revisit. But at this point it's highly unlikely that this event will receive much, if any, further coverage, so it simply doesn't have the lasting notability for an encyclopedia. Bradv 🍁  14:20, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:28, 1 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWSPAPER Legion X (talk) 19:46, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. This stuff happens every day around the world. Utterly unremarkable and not notable. WWGB (talk) 05:08, 2 March 2019 (UTC)


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