Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clive Mather


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 01:44, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Clive Mather

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For an article from May 2007, there has never been improvement and my searches found no signs of it happening, here, here, here and here. Although the article is detailed and these listed sources mention him, there's nothing significant and in-depth. I'd be open to a redirect elsewhere and of the two options, Shell Canada looks better than Lensbury. SwisterTwister  talk  19:43, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete The fact that the article has existed in a substandard state for 8 years shows why notability requirements are useful.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:13, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep -- I agree that this is a badly structured articlebut that does not make the subject NN. The fact that he gave a couple of speeches is hardly worth a section heading, but he does seem to have held a series of high-profile posts before his retirement; retirement does not remove notability.  AS he has held posts with multiple notable companies and charities a merge or redirect to any one of them would be inappropriate.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:05, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - this is in-depth (published 2003 in Management Today), then there's this, this, and he has his portrait in the NPG... Kraxler (talk) 16:49, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:58, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, meets WP:GNG upon consideration of the sources provided by Kraxler. North of Eden (talk) 21:13, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Refs found should be added to article to prevent further afd's and wasting of time. Szzuk (talk) 21:24, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep This article doesn't begin in any standard format and is lengthy/formatted weird. The other discussors mentioned sources that will help the page. A re-structure would get this page in better standing. Tangledupinbleu chs (talk) 04:40, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Care to comment? SwisterTwister   talk  04:47, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep The Head of Shell Canada is of obvious real world importance,t& th protrait confirms it. Frankly, I'm more concerned with RW importance than the details of sourcing, but that seems to be adequate also.  DGG ( talk ) 04:52, 8 August 2015 (UTC)


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