Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clonkeen College

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep (no consensus). Mindspillage (spill yours?) 05:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Clonkeen College
A Catholic high school in Ireland with a BEEFSTEW score of 0. At present, my VfD summary's longer than the actual article. [ +t,  +c  ] 02:13, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * The BEEFSTEW score's gone up to 3.   [  +t,  +c  ] 07:23, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete, not notable. Megan1967 02:38, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, should be given longer than 3 minutes to try and accumulate some BEEFSTEW. Kappa 02:54, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC) Withdraw vote, I googled this and couldn't find enough to make an interesting article, will change my mind if anyone else wants to try. Kappa 11:10, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * My vote goes back to keep because of GRider's efforts. Failing keep, it should be merged with Blackrock. Kappa 23:45, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Per Kappa's comment, I will reserve voting until 48 hours from this posting, then vote based on what's there. -- 8^D gab 04:01, 2005 Apr 23 (UTC)
 * Provisional Keep If the article expands at all. Klonimus 05:09, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Public insititution. Existence verified. --Centauri 05:55, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Very short articles with little or no context What makes that school encyclopedic? Vegaswikian 06:06, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, absence of claim/evidence of notability. Everyking 07:21, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable, ?vanity? ?(wordhere)cruft?, etc. Master Thief Garrett 10:29, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Account User:Master Thief Garrett was created 2 weeks ago. Welcome to Wikipedia.  &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 08:01, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Blackrock. Average Earthman 11:01, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. If there was anything of substance to add, it could have been by now. -- 8^D gab 06:39, 2005 Apr 25 (UTC)
 * Merge into Blackrock and delete - Skysmith 08:37, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, I trust Kappa's skills in finding notability and if he doesn't find any, there probably isn't any. Radiant_* 10:51, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, eternal substub. Korath (Talk) 14:02, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * keep because it is notable plus our founder thinks so too  Yuckfoo 00:51, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Somehow I failed to find the words notable or Clonkeen College in that over-quoted text. Am I just missing them? Indrian 04:42, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * I realize some people browse at very, very low resolution, but I fail to see how "Clonkeen College is a non-fee paying Christian Brothers secondary school in Blackrock, Co. Dublin."&mdash;that's the article's full content&mdash;is a decent, verifiable, well-cited, two page article like the sort we should be accommodating. In fact, it rather looks like "Randolph School is a private school in Huntsville, Alabama, US", which that poor abused year-and-a-half old mailing list post says should be mass-deleted. &mdash;Korath (Talk) 08:10, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Notability not established. Indrian 04:42, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * The article has been expanded but not in a way that I consider significant. (They have sports teams.  What high school doesn't?  They have alumni but none of the alumni are sufficiently notable to already have an article.)  This is still a delete.  Rossami (talk) 01:42, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Apparently Glenn Quinn was misspelled the first time&mdash; the famous and now deceased Irish actor does have an article.  &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 07:03, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, it's made some serious improvements since being added to GRider's Schoolwatch and will undoubtedly improve. Can someone BEEFSTEW this?  &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 06:25, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Looks to be about a three to me. "Serious improvements" is quite a reach.  A founding date, a list of sports, and three alumni would be a minor improvement in my book. Indrian 06:30, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Its gone from uninformative substub with a BEEFSTEW of 0 to a score of 3. There is no point in debating the seriousness of the improvements made so far.  &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 06:37, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable, not interesting. The JPS 19:30, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Isn't the precedent set by Sunset High School (Portland) to keep high schools? Kingturtle 07:17, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * No, there is no consensus or policy. Some get kept, some get deleted, often determined by who took a wikibreak any given week. Indrian 07:22, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable. &mdash;Lowellian (talk) 07:32, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Notability still not established. Jonathunder 08:48, 2005 Apr 28 (UTC)
 * Keep, what is the policy on these? Maggie311 09:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Currently there is no official policy, but there is a lot of fighting, you may want to look at some other current school Vfds. Some people propose schools articles could be merged until/unless they reach a certain size and informativeness. See also WP:BEEFSTEW, a widely used measure. Kappa 09:31, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete not notable. Grue 18:02, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep passes the pokemon comparativity notability test. ;)  ALKIVAR &trade;[[Image:Radioactive.svg|18px|]] 02:13, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, classic encyclopedia article --Tony Sidaway|Talk 18:50, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Articles about schools belong in Wikipedia --Zantastik 19:07, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. Noisy | Talk 10:23, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
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