Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Closed schools in the Northland Region


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The result was   keep. JForget 03:07, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Closed schools in the Northland Region

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Very extensive list with excellent referencing. That being said, I feel like this runs afoul of WP:INDISCRIMINATE, especially considering that little context is given and that none of the schools listed (as well as some of the towns) have their own article. Notable schools can be included within the article about the municipality the school was located in. 2 says you, says two 05:46, 9 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. - gadfium  06:37, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. - gadfium  06:41, 9 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete As per nom. None of the entries listed is linked indicating insubstantial notability for the topic. (Talk Contribs) 06:47, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I do not believe this article breaches WP:INDISCRIMINATE given the current state of wikipedia on Northland. Of local interest. Well referenced in addition. Buckshot06 (talk) 07:34, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Merge into List of schools in the Northland Region, with maybe an asterisk or something next to them to show they are closed. Just because a school does not have an article, it does not necessarily mean that it is not worthy of a mention; as Buckshot06 mentioned, a school is an important feature of the local community and is of local notability, and the other article appears to have every school currently there.  Notability is not temporary.  I think that the lack of articles does suggest a lack of substantial notability and information available, however, so I don't think it is enough for a standalone article, although I think it would be useful for them to be mentioned.  It all depends what the purpose of such an article is perceived to be, but I think the information should stay. Jhbuk (talk) 19:54, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Just because there are not yet articles on the small communities in which these schools were located does not mean there never will be. Indeed, Gadfium's project to cover all the open schools was the prime driver for the creation of many of the Northland town articles. He gave priority for doing the same for the rest of the country rather than progressing through the closed schools list. I was going to support a merge, although that would make List of schools in the Northland Region rather large, but considering some of the more populous regions of New Zealand, the combined lists would be way too large, and some consistency is needed. I do not agree for one minute that this is an indiscriminate list. dramatic (talk) 21:22, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - well sourced and certainly not an indiscriminate list. Whether this should be merged into List of schools in the Northland Region is a separate editorial matter that should be considered subsequently. TerriersFan (talk) 21:40, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —TerriersFan (talk) 21:44, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep This sourced list is not indiscriminate since it has a well-defined inclusion criterion (closed schools in the Northland Region). I recommend moving the article to List of closed schools in the Northland Region, since "List of..." is the standard title for lists. Cunard (talk) 21:58, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep The article is relevant to the Northland Region. A potential failing is that this article got created prior to articles about the various townships, but those will no doubt come, and if the author's interest is in school rather than the localities that those schools were located in, that's fine. It might appear that things have been done in the wrong order. But in my opinion, this doesn't make the list indiscriminate. Schwede66 (talk) 00:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've been thinking about this for a couple of days, and I cannot see how this falls foul of WP:INDISCRIMINATE. I oppose a merge with List of schools in the Northland Region. This article was originally part of that article, but was split off because this can never be complete. Records from earlier times, particularly going back into the 19th century, are hard to come by and are almost certainly not going to cover every school. The list of open schools is complete. Merging the two would force the other article to lose its featured list status. I have no objection to a name change to "List of...".- gadfium 17:58, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * My interest in primarily in the small communities of Northland, rather than in their schools. However, those communities which have lost their schools are often little more than place names on the map, and thus low priority for articles to be written. It might be appropriate to remove the links for such localities. However, I'm not aware of any requirement for all the entries on a list to have articles. This would be my personal standard for a featured list, but as I said above, this list is unlikely to ever reach featured status due to unavailability of sources to make it complete.- gadfium 18:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
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