Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cloudnine Hospitals


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR). North America1000 01:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Cloudnine Hospitals

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Blatant advert concealed as an article. Anything that has that many awards or pseudo-awards ought to have some meat in it. This has no meat and poor references.

Here is my analysis of the references: Fiddle  Faddle  20:21, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) http://leaders.indiamart.com/kishore-kumar.html these Indiamart awards, are they notable? My view is that they are borderline at best.
 * 2) http://article.wn.com/view/2012/11/05/Cloudnine_Announces_of_its_Team_of_Doctors_Having_the_Millio/ Press release. Fail
 * 3) https://www.practo.com/bangalore/clinic/cloudnine-hospital-jayanagar-jayanagar-3-block some sort of directory listing. Fail
 * 4) http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/cloudnine-to-start-five-hospitals-outside-karnataka-113040200555_1.html regurgitated Press release or PR piece. Fail
 * 5) http://www.csia.com.au/awards-recognition/2014-award-winners Notable award? Borderline
 * 6) http://awards.vccircle.com list of winners of another award. Borderline
 * 7) http://forbesindia.com/article/special/11-startups-to-watch-in-2012/31622/1 could actually be a real reference!


 * Comment Some unreferenced items have been removed, and some facts, hitherto unsourced, have been either added or sourced. The new sourcing gives me similar cause for concern:
 * http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-06-05/news/32055714_1_maternity-care-founders-speciality-hospital while having the appearance of reliability and independence, feels to be the outcome of a PR exercise. For me this is borderline
 * http://archive.financialexpress.com/news/matrix-partners-invests-rs-45-cr-in-cloud-nine/831230 has all the appearance of a press release generated piece, albeit from the investor, not the org in question. Even so that does not make it independent. Rather, since the investor is publicising their investment, it makes it a primary source. Fail
 * http://www.leaders.economictimes.com/winners-2012.php is just a list of winners. Is this award notable? If so then it is useful to the extent that it verifies the winning of the award, but it feels like just another industry junket. Correct me with pleasure. My current opinion is Fail
 * http://www.worldwideachievers.in/health-care-excellence-awards-2012.html same as the immediately preceding award. Fail
 * http://www.fastcompany.com/most-innovative-companies/2014/industry/india Who is FastCompany? Is this rating in any way notable? Unless proven to be notable itself, Fail
 * It's a good effort, but it provides an air of faux-notability, reminding me of WP:BOMBARD Fiddle   Faddle  08:53, 17 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment Three new references have been added, all of which are papers by one of the principals and are thus not about the organisation nor are they independent of it nor are they  significant coverage of it. I have left a message in general terms on the contributing editor's talk page. I will not itemise those references here since this seems now to be a movable feast. If references that pass WP:42 arrive I will change my mind, obviously, but I see a promotional editor on a poor roll with a load of wallpaper and a bucket of paste. Fiddle   Faddle  09:17, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:39, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:39, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:39, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep Cloudnine hospitals is a well known name in maternity hospitals. People in India actually need right information about the hospital where they go for treatment. Wikipedia is a best platform where we can add this notable hospital and give detail information.My suggestion is to improve this article rather than to delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhyud (talk • contribs) 07:13, 17 April 2015‎ copied here from the talk page. I have interpreted this as a !voye to keep the article.  Fiddle   Faddle  07:42, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment What people need is not relevant to what Wikipedia will accept as an article. If it is well known then the referencing must verify this. This is what notability is all about. Make that happen and there is no problem with retaining the article. Fiddle   Faddle  07:44, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 23:44, 23 April 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Add to List_of_hospitals_in_India If that is not sufficient, consider creating a list of maternity hospitals in India. LaMona (talk) 21:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:47, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.