Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coach Billy Turner


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The result was delete. czar 06:27, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Coach Billy Turner

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Delete. WP:BLP of a high school football coach, referenced exclusively to local media coverage in his own local area -- no evidence is shown of the kind of nationalized media coverage it would take to make him notable for the purposes of an international encyclopedia. WP:GNG is not met just because a few pieces of local media coverage exist -- if that were enough, we would have to start keeping articles about presidents of church bake sale committees. For somebody at this level of significance, it takes more than just local coverage, demonstrating more than just local renown, for a Wikipedia article to become warranted. Bearcat (talk) 20:34, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Actually, he was drafted on to the Buffalo Bills which is a national football team, has produced 9 NFL players off his team, played and coached at University of Tampa during the biggest integration game in Florida's history and has a field named in his honor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amz-usf (talk • contribs) 23:28, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * (1) The article says he was a backup player on the Buffalo Bills for just a few days before getting cut. That's not a notability claim that gets a football player in the door because "NFL", if he never actually played on the field in a Bills game. (2) The number of players who went on from his school to join the NFL after they weren't on his team anymore is not a notability claim that gets a high school football coach into Wikipedia. There are a lot of high school coaches who could claim nine or more NFL players went through their high school coaching, without getting Wikipedia articles for that. (3) Coaching at the university level might make a difference here, if that content were reliably sourced rather than just being asserted. But as written, it's not. (4) Having a football field named after you, at the school where you were a coach, is not a notability freebie either.

As well he won awards from the state of Florida for most wins. Served on University of Tampa as the athletic director, played semi pro football for three years. would these things assist in making him more notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amz-usf (talk • contribs) 08:02, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

He was awarded National Coach of the Year by the National Football Foundation....that's nationally recognized...would adding that help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amz-usf (talk • contribs) 07:55, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It's certainly not impossible that he might be more notable than this article shows or sources. But if that's true, then the onus is on you to write and source it better than this, and not on anybody else to extend him the benefit of the doubt just because you say so. Bearcat (talk) 23:52, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

This is obviously my first time doing this. So I am asking for help instead of being treated unkindly for not knowing any better yet. I have provided sources and will provide sources for that stuff as well. However, I apparently am doing that wrong and I am asking for help in correcting that aspect.I am certain most people needed help their first article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amz-usf (talk • contribs) 08:05, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable high school football coach.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:28, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment. Is it just me, or are things a bit bitey? --Andreas Philopater (talk) 22:57, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - Close to the GNG boundary despite lack of automatic Special Notability Guideline qualification. Damn, though, this is a really terrible article per WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Carrite (talk) 20:46, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per WP:TNT without prejudice to a proper rewrite. Just about every line of this needs alteration. Carrite (talk) 20:48, 14 December 2016 (UTC)


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