Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coalition for a Humanistic Euro British Canada


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was consensus to delete. Johnleemk | Talk 11:43, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Coalition for a Humanistic Euro British Canada
Poorly-written profile of a racist nut group based off of a Tripod website (britishcanada.tripod.com). Firebug 01:16, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Update The creator of the article has now removed the AFD notice twice and accused me of 'vandalism' for placing it. Firebug 01:28, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Keep: Fellow wikipedians, to delete an entry that explains what has been currently making headline in SW Ontario on the basis that it's a "tempest in a teapot" simply shows your dismissal of things of interest to Ontarians as trivial. Michael Chessman is definitely NOT a fictitious individual. Being one of East Indian heritage growing up in several British Commonwealth countries, his identifying with Anglo-centric racial and cultural prejudice could be a reaction to, or internalization/reproduction of the discrimination he has received. This coalition could also well be Chessman's ingenious parody of the all too common conservative cultural norm of SW Ontario. However, the Coalition is officially included within a list of several minor federal political parties. For no reason is it justified to delete a Wikipedia entry on even a minor mock Canadian political party like the Rhinoceros Party, likewise this one. Those who vote to delete this article are simply too Americanocentric to care about Canada, or are too patriotically Canadian to admit to anything that contradicts the official image of Canada as cosmopolitan, multicultural, liberal and progressive. First of all, lose your biases, and then judge your fellow wikipedians. Again, wikipedia is no place for people who destroy articles without well informed deliberation. Bestlyriccollection 
 * For God's sake, the group has been in existence since the late 90s and it has recently stirred controversy by advertising on Windsor's main Can-West newspaper Windsor Star. How is it just a "Tripod website"?? It has exerted influence throughout Ontario for years and you want to delete anything that brings public awareness to this nut group? I consider your ulterior motive laiden edits vandalism. Please just stop. Wikipedia has no place for people like you, who only destroy articles without making any positive contribution. Bestlyriccollection
 * Delete per nomination. Wikipedia is not for transforming non-notable "nut groups" into household names. &mdash;  F REAK OF N URxTURE  ( TALK )  01:54, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as a minor nut group. It seems like the closest thing they have to a claim of notability is buying a one-time ad in the Vancouver Sun, calling for a return to "traditional British values." I'd be willing to change my vote if someone could show that they have some actual influence in Ontario. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:10, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. If it had stirred anything greater than a tempest in a teapot then we'd see the evidence on Google. Durova 05:46, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. NSLE  ( 讨论 + extra ) 08:17, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. the wub "?!"  16:01, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. I would avoid phrases like "nut group" because it's not the content (no matter how distasteful) we vote on but whether the topic belongs in an encyclopedia. Ifnord 16:50, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * No vote This link describes the organisation as 'fictitious'. However it is also possible that this is the organisation (or person) which caused a nationwide news stir by placing an openly racist advert in the Windsor Star today. DJ Clayworth 01:02, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
 * It was only in the news because Michael Chessman took out newspaper advertisements for an "organization" that he later admitted was fictitious. He failed to pay for the newspaper advertisements. Durova 09:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Instead of tearing the whole article down, would you mind just including this piece of information into the newsworthy wiki article? Thanks.
 * I considered changing my vote. If this had been an actual organization with a small coterie of members, paid newspaper advertisements, and its own domain name then I'd vote differently.  Am leaving the delete because it's an admitted self-promoting fraud by one individual. Durova 23:38, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or at least Redirect to Michael E. Chessman as he is the sole member of the "party". Homey 01:58, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I'd support an article about the individual (I did have an "oh, gawd, that guy!" reaction as I read this), but not about the "group". Same reasoning as Homey. And since Homey and I are both residents of Toronto, our friend upthread can stow the allegations of anti-Canadian bias. Rewrite at Michael E. Chessman as a biographical profile. Bearcat 10:43, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, if for no other reason than the creator removed the AFD notice. (and real reasons per Durova) Stifle 23:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.