Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cobalt croquet


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that subject is not notable by encyclopedic standards; article lacks any sourcing which might lead to other conclusions and, evidently, none to be found. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Cobalt croquet

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Disputed prod. Non-notable software, can't find any reliable sources and the version of the article from two days ago talked about the first iteration in the future tense which suggests that if it exists at all it is probably too new to be able to  meet the notability requirement. nancy  (talk) 16:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as non-notable as yet, without prejudice to re-creation once it's moved beyond "pre-alpha" stage and got some mentions in reliable sources. Qwfp (talk) 17:05, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - unreferenced and non-notable. —TreasuryTag talk  contribs  17:26, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * "Don't delete" - noted KAT was WAN, so speculate cobalt has two peers share their worlds without server as per http://www.nabble.com/forum/ViewPost.jtp?post=15870402&framed=y — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.231.41.25 (talk • contribs)
 * Comment: I'm sorry, the last contributor may have a valuable point but I found the clarity with which it was expressed it to be considerably less than completely crystal. (In other words, I haven't a clue what it meant). Qwfp (talk) 20:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


 * "Don't delete replies, sorry, acronyms with hindsight ridiculous" Croquet has had several iterations, and cobalt is evidently a new version.


 * KAT is an abbreviation (K for kidsfirst AT for application toolkit) denoting a so called "morph" you drag from a morph box in croquet to bring up a virtual world through the Internet as a WAN (wide area network) from a dedicated server. WAN abbreviates wide area network.


 * KAT was WAN meant a help balloon indicated KAT was for wide area network through internet where I had to dig to get at that and what it meant in previous versions. You'd launch the world by dragging the morph out of the box and wait for awhile in case the world had been visited a lot and not been reset. You had to have the patience to wait and see that you hadn't fouled up somehow.


 * What I have been reading on croquet users intimates something else I have been waiting to get debugged from croquet :


 * There are certain other morphs in the croquet-cobalt morph box. These allow peer to peer sharing of virtual worlds to visit built on the peers computers (not by a centralized server charging for a service, rather for poor kids in the one laptop per child program, say). There's a tools menu in these morphs you pull out of the box. One peer looks to see where he is with one menu item on this menu. He then uses a chat mechanism to "post card as XML" to his fellow to instruct his peer he chats with what to paste in what window is invoked with a tools menu goto world menu item. When his friend does, a window appears in his world that his avatar can jump through to visit his world and have a 3D chat ala croquet.


 * I'm hoping cobalt gets the bugs out of this as evidenced by my link above to the archive of croquet users.


 * So far, with previous versions of croquet, I've used the postcard as XML between two macs in wifi connection as well as made a demo with one mac and a lot of personal intuition I can't explain here; it is just not as vivid in black and white in an e mail as having it demonstrated in 3D. There are movies out there on croquet that do better than me (just a user who nibbles with nabble at programming) :


 * http://www.croquetconsortium.org/index.php/Main_Page


 * There are also tutorials :


 * http://opencroquet.org/index.php/Tutorials


 * I read myself above and laughed and maybe now you will understand another abbreviation that might be humorous :


 * KAT is not as WAN as other morphs you can pull out of the box. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.231.41.25 (talk • contribs)


 * Delete - non-notable (and incomprehensible, I might add). -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  19:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


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