Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cody Balogh


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   No consensus. Stifle (talk) 18:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Cody Balogh

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Not having played in a fully professional regular season game, this player fails WP:ATHLETE. Possible recreation at end of first participation in a regular season game. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 18:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 
 * Comment WP:ATHLETE has two parts. Part two:  "Competitors who have competed at the highest level in amateur sports" -- I would say that this player has met that by having played for the national championship for Division I-AA.--Paul McDonald (talk) 16:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  00:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Hasn't yet played professionally; recreate when he has. — 97198 (talk) 03:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Atheletes do not have to be professional to be notable--Amatuer athletes can also meet notability requirements.--Paul McDonald (talk) 16:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --Falcon Darkstar Kirtaran (talk) 01:42, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:ATHLETE « PuTTY Sch OOL 08:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Question How? See comment above on amateur sports.--Paul McDonald (talk) 16:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: Athletes with a brand new career are probably best discussed in tabular form.  Only when there is something to discuss would discussion in isolation be logical.  Since we don't even have the low bar usually held up passed here, this is an obvious delete.  Utgard Loki (talk) 13:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep for his noteworthy college football career. First team all-conference, started 41 games, four year letterman, team captain, 11-0 conference champion, third team all-american as a junior, appeared in national semifinals for I-AA, second place team I-AA.  What's not to note? CFB:PLAYER--Paul McDonald (talk) 16:25, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. General thoughts: American college football is much larger than many professional leagues around the world (here's but one glaring example from just today).  It is well known that calling them "amateur" stretches the term; if anything they fall under the WP:ATHLETE's term for the "highest level in amateur sports".  While this doesn't warrant a page for every player (which is apparently the case for anyone who's ever stumbled onto an NFL field), a notable college football should be included without having to play in the professional leagues.  For an extreme example, see Jason White, though the Heisman shouldn't be a requirement.  Additionally, those at FCS (formerly D-IAA) require more scrutiny than those at FBS (formerly D-IA).  Another safe bet is always All-American status or, in certain cases, all-conference status. However, I would again caution against using A-A as a requirement either as there have been plenty of notable players who haven't reached those but made an impact on the sport.  Under those conditions, this article marginally passes --though if he were cut I would quickly shift to delete. --Bobak (talk) 21:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. He had a noteworthy college career and could be a marginal professional player.  Even if the Chicago Bears don't keep him, he has the talent to sigh with another NFL team or even play in the ultra-competitive Canadian Football League (GO CFL!!).  Besides, Wikipedia is about making information available to everyone in an easier way.  Where else are you going to find this kind of information about the man?  You'll have to do hours of research to find even half of this information.  Trust me, I've edited for over 100 European football players, and finding information is a huge challenge.  Keep it!--parisianphilosopher2008 03:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Parisianphilosopher2008 (talk • contribs)
 * Comment: Recent news on him indicate that the Bears could keep him. We should probably give the article some time. BlueAg09 (Talk) 03:22, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.