Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colab Members


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The result was merge to Colab. Daniel (talk) 11:03, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Colab Members

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Not an appropriate list for Wikipedia.This is just a membership roster. Per what Wikipedia is not, "Simple listings" of clients/customers/members and such of a run of the mill group shouldn't be on Wikipedia. I objected earlier about this same membership directory being in Colab but that wasn't a suggestion to branch off to a separate article and link articles pointing back at one another like a mesh network. Graywalls (talk) 16:52, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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 * Maintain Stripping artist groups or art movements of the names of their artist members renders the pages almost meaningless and is not done on Wikipedia. See the Abstract expressionism Wikipedia page for example. It contains a list of the notable abstract expressionists. Also the Dada Wikipedia page contains a list of notable Dadaists. The same form should be maintained for Colab: an art historically important group from the early 1980s. Claims by Graywalls that it is merely "run of the mill" above are ill informed and appear biased against art historical significance. Colab Members is not simply a what Wikipedia is not issue. After the list of Colab Members was removed from the Colab page by Graywalls, I was forced to salvage the art historical data there, apparently constructed over many years, by creating the Colab Members page in question. Actually, the list, if only of the artists with Wikipedia pages, should be restored to the Colab page, in my respectful opinion.Valueyou (talk) 17:40, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Selective merge of notable or key members (with sourcing) back into Colab. Can be dealt with via columns to avoid being too long.      StarM 17:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to Colab per WP:ATD, this is a matter for normal editing to resolve. Whether there's value in having the membership be comprehensive instead of just limited to notable members only is a matter for talk page discussion there, but clearly some coverage of its membership is relevant to that topic. NOTDIR does not dictate otherwise, and the nom incorrectly seems to think it forbids us from listing people associated with an article topic. postdlf (talk) 19:28, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean that judiciously selected and properly cited names are not allowed, but what amounts to a roster of essentially all members is within NOTDIRECTORY. I nom'd it, because the long roster that's not suitable in the article was created as a new article as soon as I removed it. If it was a pre-exiting list, I would have re-directed. Graywalls (talk) 21:37, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * NOTDIR doesn't give such specific answers or directions. What matters is what is appropriate or relevant for this subject. postdlf (talk) 00:21, 20 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge back to Colab, which ought to have a section that lists notable members. I do think the list is too long. Limit it to members whose article makes mention of their membership and where that claim is supported by independent, reliable sources. Vexations (talk) 23:16, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect or smerge back (merge selectively). Very few of these artists are notable. Bearian (talk) 14:34, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


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