Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cold start (automotive)


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The result was   keep. Closing as keep, can be expanded (non-admin closure)  Ethically  Yours! 12:01, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Cold start (automotive)

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This article was created in November 2012, and immediately tagged for lacking/unreliable sources and for proposed deletion. It was rewritten by an anonymous user in January 2014, unfortunately without any sources. There's already an article at Block heater and another at Ignition system. Neither of those articles are obvious merge targets, but either could work. I can't see how this article can be much more than a 'how-to' guide, which is forbidden by WP:NOT. The best solution may be just to delete it. Rezin (talk) 22:19, 12 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Keep per nom. Don't see how this could turn into a substantial article, it's somewhat akin to having an article about flat tires, another article tagged with "how to" (BTW, I came up with the flat tire analogy before I realized there actually was an article about it, but decided the analogy was still relevant given that the article was tagged). In light of comments from Oakshade I am changing my vote to keep, in retrospect there is plenty that can be added to this article, especially the environmental affects of cold starts. War wizard90 (talk) 02:48, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand - The topic is notable, much in the same way jump start (vehicle) is as it's an extremely common condition worldwide throughout the entire history of automobiles and includes a lot of background and science and has been a consideration for anyone who has operated automotive vehicles. Plenty of reliable sources deal in-depth with this, like from Gawker Media/Jalopnik, The Chronicle Herald , the editorial section of cars.com and even Forbes .  And a lot of historical coverage like these articles from Popular Mechanics in 1964 and 1985 respectively. , There also should be information of the necessity of "warming" a car after a cold start has changed over the years as well as the impact cold starts have on the environment as indicated by reliable sources in very in-depth studies by the European Conference of Ministers of Transport on cold starts impact on energy consumption published in 1981 , and others by the Argonne National Laboratory published in 2012, way beyond the scope of "how to." --Oakshade (talk) 03:17, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:58, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:58, 13 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep & Expand per Oakshade - The topic is well known and is a common occurrence with most vehicles. – Davey 2010 Talk 23:40, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
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