Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cold weapon (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus for lack of comments despite two re-listings. No prejudice to another quick nomination. Secret account 01:09, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Cold weapon
AfDs for this article: 
 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Does not meet notability guideline, appears to be a neologism or translated foreign word not used in English. A bit weird because the previous AfD result was "delete"? Peacemaker67 (send... over) 10:14, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Not saying this is notable, but the term has a little bit of currency in English, meaning a soft redirect may be worthwhile. The Complete Taiji Dao: The Art of the Chinese Saber (2009), Contemporary Society: Social realities (1997), and Intelligence and Security Informatics (2005) all use the term as it is defined here. Previous AFD closed as delete in 2005, recreated as a redirect in 2007, before being expanded that same day. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:41, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The problem may be with the fact that it was retained. I have to say I have never heard of it, and military stuff in Australia, UK and NATO has been my life for thirty years. In a literal respect, it (sort of) makes sense, ie cold weapon/hot weapon, but it just has no currency in English. Perhaps it equates to an improvised weapon, or melee weapon? It definitely shouldn't be here as an article title. Perhaps as a soft redirect, as you say, but someone with a tenuous grasp of English will surely make it an article again soon. The reason I came to it was that it was used in a translated quote, and when I challenged it, the editor concerned linked to this article. It just doesn't exist. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 10:51, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * As I said above, "next to no currency" in English may be more accurate. A quick internet search gave 3 academic works from a 12 year time span in a matter of minutes; there may be more. The term white arm may have more currency. Move to wiktionary, with a soft redirect here (we can protect it if need be). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:07, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Much happier with that. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 12:27, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:14, 14 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete By the not a dictionary policy. Even if the expression were widely used this article would still be only a definition.   I don't think it would be practical to have an article about cold weapons in general since they would seem to include everything from a thrown rock to the latest sound-wave or micro-wave or whatever device now being developed. Borock (talk) 15:33, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * BTW "white arm" or "white weapon" seems to be a translation of an Arabic term for a sword or knife. I don't think the Kuwaiti government banned the sale of baseball bats, etc. Borock (talk) 17:09, 14 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 07:43, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, slakr  \ talk / 02:16, 3 July 2014 (UTC)




 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.