Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cole Swindell


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The result was   keep. postdlf (talk) 18:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Cole Swindell

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Definitely "too soon". One #39 hit in the country charts? One source and no real evidence of notability. Pinkbeast (talk) 16:47, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per notability criteria for musicians, #2.:Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. Reviews of the artist's work can also be found on Taste of Country, Pitch and Billboard.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 16:56, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not American, so perhaps I misunderstand, but surely a genre-specific music chart does not qualify? Make the genre specific enough, and anything would hence become notable. Pinkbeast (talk) 17:01, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Per WP:CHARTS, such a chart does qualify. That said, keep.  Erpert  WHAT DO YOU WANT??? 07:04, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:CHARTS says that chart should be included in the article, not that it establishes notability. Pinkbeast (talk) 10:05, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * But that chart is included in the article; in fact, it was included when you nominated it.  Erpert  WHAT DO YOU WANT??? 18:19, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Er, yes, I am not disputing that it was. I feel we are talking at cross purposes here. WP:CHARTS describes what chart listings might be included in articles. If Swindell is notable, that listing should be included. It does not describe which charts make artists inherently notable. WP:MUSICBIO (inasmuch as it is more than a guideline) calls for a "national chart". A genre-specific national chart is clearly less indicative of notability because it is easier to get on. Swindell has not, unless I am mistaken, charted in any non-genre-specific way. Pinkbeast (talk) 23:02, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * "A genre-specific national chart is clearly less indicative of notability because it is easier to get on." That sounds like your own opinion.  Erpert  WHAT DO YOU WANT??? 15:52, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Obviously if you are competing only with singles in a specific genre rather than with all singles you will reach a higher position in a chart. This is surely self-evident. How could you reach a lower position? What singles would be above you in the genre-specific chart which are not also in the main chart? Pinkbeast (talk) 15:22, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree that it is necessarily easier to get on a genre specific chart than a cross-genre chart, but I'd argue getting onto even a genre-specific chart in Billboard is no small feat. These rankings take into consideration airtime, digital downloads, digital sales, and streaming.  Country music is wildly popular in much of the United States, and while it's difficult to estimate the number of active country bands, there are likely several hundred in most metropolitan areas, and probably a few or several thousand in each state.  All that considered, landing a spot on Hot Country Music is kind of a big deal, and is exactly the kind of notability we look for.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 16:01, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It's no small feat, but Swindell has, specifically, not accomplished the feat called for in WP:MUSICBIO (or if he has, that is not reflected in the article.) Pinkbeast (talk) 16:20, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I think we will have to disagree about what constitutes a "national music chart" then, as some others have already stated. I, JethroBT  drop me a line 17:13, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S. state)-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:02, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:02, 3 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep per the charting single and the sources shown above. — sparklism hey! 07:35, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep meets WP:MUSICBIO. Eric444 (talk) 08:42, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, meets WP:MUSICBIO with a charted single. Added a review from Taste of Country. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:12, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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