Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colin R. Turner


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spas were given exactly the weight they deserved. None. Spartaz Humbug! 22:37, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Colin R. Turner

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This article does not meet WP:AUTHOR, WP:ANYBIO, or WP:GNG. Its has been repeatedly edited by a confirmed COI account - the article subject himself editing under - to include quotes, links, and summaries of his own primary sources such as self-published books and website. There is a single event (a "moneyless" walk around the world) for which there is a BBC source and a couple others, but this coverage is not significant and seems based on a purely promotional stunt. Editing this article seems to be another such promotional effort to push his economic theories. Overall, I see no reason that this article merits inclusion in the encyclopedia. -- Netoholic @ 03:02, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Superficial referenciness does not pass even a cursory inspection. Guy (help!) 09:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not meant to be a platform for self promotion. We need to stop the use of it as such.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:18, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: This subject is worthy of a Wikipedia article, can be improved, and deletion is unwarranted. Reasons as follows:
 * There are in fact 17 contributors to this article, including myself and excluding bots. As mentioned, I previously acknowledged potential conflict of interest and have endeavoured to maintain neutrality in my contributions. Being the subject myself does not nor should preclude me from writing about myself. There are aspects of my personal life for example that no-one else would know better than I to write about, and that readers may be interested in . If there are particular sections that you think are distorted or unfair, please direct me to them so I can improve the article instead of deleting it.
 * I contend that I am an author who meets the WP:AUTHOR criteria. I have developed a modicum of new thinking in the field of socio-economics, especially an open access economy, on which I have published two books, one of which (Into The Open Economy) has been cited twice in scholarly publications and translated into nine different languages.  I have gained significant reputation for my work among a particular anticulture community, which you may or may not agree with, but is no less significant.  (This Wikipedia article has received over 8,000 visits)
 * The BBC source relating to the ‘moneyless walk around the world’ was carried by many other media as well, including AFP and Yahoo News. (many other links have since deceased) It was not a ‘promotional stunt’ insofar as there was nothing to promote apart from the idea itself. Apparently it was newsworthy at the time. (2013) I have since also given a TED talk on the subject.
 * I admit to being a novice somewhat in Wikipedia contributions, and am happy to address whatever issues with the article you deem appropriate in order to improve it rather than delete it. Thank you. Silkfield (talk) 12:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I have since also given a TED talk on the subject...
 * Except it wasn't actually a [TED Talk: the presentation was made at TEDxGalway, which was an independent local event. ("TEDx are independent events similar to TED in presentation. They can be organized by anyone who obtains a free license from TED, and agrees to follow certain principles.") --Calton &#124; Talk 04:54, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Most other editors of the article are performing maintenance edits that do not add to the substantive content, or removing overly promotional text added by you. Guy (help!) 13:57, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to belabor it much, but I have a couple things to point out since you brought them up. Firstly, it was a local TEDx talk independent from TED, and misleadingly stating in the article (as you did here) is exactly what prompted me to finally take this step. Second, all the coverage around the "moneyless walk" seems to originate from the AFP news agency (and then reproduced on BBC and Yahoo) which has an "on-demand" service that will "tell the stories that bring your message to life" for "dedicate a team of journalists to the production of tailor-made content" to "ensure reactivity, quality and top-of-the-range SEO". This service "creates the original content you need: videos and photos; text reports". They are a "news agency" for hire. -- Netoholic @ 14:14, 21 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. Every single reference thrown there is, as far as I can tell, unreliable. The TED Talk, isn't really a TED Talk, and the two books are from a supposed publisher ("Applied Image") that has absolutely no web footprint at all and seem to be held -- according to WorldCat -- by a single library in Auckland, New Zealand. So no, not even close to meeting notability guidelines. --Calton &#124; Talk 04:54, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I tried to locate "Applied Image" also and the closest match I found was an on-demand print shop. -- Netoholic @ 05:56, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes the talk was a TEDx filmed in Galway that is now on the main TED site. I will amend it. I don't know from where the news story in 2013 originated from except that I was invited to participate in a number of interviews. Interest probably came from a press release.Silkfield (talk) 16:20, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:13, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:13, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, this article has interest is researched and authentic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick9tap (talk • contribs) 16:28, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Nick9tap above is an editor with 3 total edits prior to this vote, from over 10 years ago. I contend this is a WP:SLEEPER vote. -- Netoholic @ 01:53, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Having observed Turner's research and activities over many years I definitely would 'keep'. His Free World Charter document has been signed by over 50,000 individuals globally. His insight and profound thoughts and publications have been instrumental in the development of potentially world changing alternative economic theories. As an impoverished Irish author and musician who gives away his books for free it is difficult to justifiably accuse him of self-promotion. Turner's realisations have been a major force in the establishment of several contending political parties since 2013, significantly advancing the dialectical rhetoric.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2407:7000:9548:FC00:4044:93F:6C5C:EFAD (talk) 02:08, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * KEEP: Colin Turner has inspired hundreds of thousands of people with his talks, books, apps and webpages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.6.98.168  (talk • contribs) 20:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Our BLPs are (should be) subject to rigorous scrutiny and the highest level of policy-adherence. This article, unfortunately, does neither. There is an absolute lack of persistent, in-depth coverage in either reputed news media or the literature to pass the most basic requirements of either NAUTHOR or ANYBIO.And re. the concerns expressed above: yes, I'm sure the closing admin will give the weight to the SPA votes that they deserve. ——  Serial # 13:39, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


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