Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Collapse into Now


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to R.E.M.. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 21:11, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Collapse into Now

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WP:HAMMER, WP:CRYSTAL. Nothing is known about this other than it should exist sometime pretty soon. The press I've seen really just says that they've recorded it and it has a name now. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:50, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Within weeks, perhaps days, more information will become available. It will exist, hence the article will exist, so there's no point deleting it now that it's been created.  City Feedback   talk  17:18, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The band practically confirmed the official title in the official website, check http://remhq.com/news_story.php?id=1225 as well as giving an approximate release date of Spring 2011. --186.87.18.30 (talk) 01:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * "It will exist" is not a valid rationale, as there's always a chance the album could not exist (band shelves material, album morphs into new project, album tapes are destroyed--things that have happened to bands before). WesleyDodds (talk) 07:37, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep or Merge into the band's page. I came here, after learning the title from elsewhere, and if I came here (and I'm not even a big fan of the band), then other people are going to be coming here to learn more about the album as well. Quite frankly we don't need to greet them with an AFD notice. Umbralcorax (talk) 13:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:40, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep This title has been confirmed.  69.12.166.40 (talk) 23:05, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The information of the album title does not confer notability upon the subject as of yet. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:35, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cirt (talk) 05:07, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. We can recreate the page once notability is established down the line. We're not a news site, and we don't need to have a page for the album yet. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:35, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to R.E.M. as there is not enough information for a decent (non-stub) article, but it is a valid search term. Armbrust  Talk  Contribs  11:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. It does fail WP:CRYSTAL and WP:HAMMER, and there isn't enough information right now for the album to have its own article. WereWolf (talk) 13:30, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to R.E.M. (most specifically, to the Accelerate section) per Armbrust's comment. It is true that stuff such as "band shelves material, album morphs into new project, album tapes are destroyed" has happened to people before, and details are still not enough for an article (specially if it has such an uncertain given date like "Spring, 2011", pretty remniscient of what's happening with The Strokes' fourth studio album). However, I think that this info (title and slated release date) can be included in the band's page, documenting the current state of the band (which, according to the page, is going through the mixing process of the album, and this seems as useful complementary information for it), and considering the relative notability of the band and the coverage that the announcement of the new album's had may be enough reasons to leave this as a redirect. --186.87.18.30 (talk) 07:46, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Redirect to R.E.M. There's not much to merge, a redirect to the relevent section should suffice, as suggest above.--hkr Laozi speak  13:34, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, merge or redirect Don't care which. I always suspect promotion with these not-yet-issued things. This is an encyclopaedia, not NME or Rolling Stone. Peridon (talk) 14:31, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to R.E.M.; I have included the album's title in this section on the R.E.M. page, sourcing their official website. City Feedback   talk  15:30, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete then redirect, per WesleyDodds Hekerui (talk) 10:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.