Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Collins & Milazzo Exhibitions


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The result was   keep. postdlf (talk) 00:27, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Collins & Milazzo Exhibitions

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Listcruft. A general article on the subject would be better. PROD removed as the article was a "valuable historic record", however the article sourcing seems a bit off too. -- Mdann 52   talk to me!  13:25, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

OK to delete Valueyou (talk) 13:56, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:27, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
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Keep. Important series of art exhibitions. Bus stop (talk) 16:10, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep – I'm willing to take 's and 's word for it that this was an important series of exhibitions, as Valueyou was the creator of the Tricia Collins and Richard Milazzo articles and both of them know a lot more about contemporary art than I do. This list was originally added to the Milazzo article in (this edit), by, an SPA who has contributed a lot of material to that article. It was deleted from the article in (this edit). In the meantime, it had been copied to the Collins article, from where it was moved to this article. And now it has been copied back to both the Collins and Milazzo articles. Basically, I think it was a good idea to move it from the Collins article. This is the good kind of move explained in WP:Listcruft, where the length and detail of the list justify breaking it out from the main article. But we need to indicate the history: Milazzo > Collins > this article, say by using the Copied template. And we need to indicate a source. The first thing to try would probably be to ask Sansimeon where this information came from. And then, once we get a proper source for this article, delete the list again from the Collins and Milazzo articles. – Margin1522 (talk) 05:00, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Additional comments: This is an important list. It should not be gutted. Many names of artists internally link to articles hosted on Wikipedia. Many of those internally linked names appear more than once but of course are not highlighted, and so this might not be obvious. Unless an argument can be made that there is falsity in this list, I think it serves a good purpose. I think it probably documents the taste of Tricia Collins and Richard Milazzo in art concerning this particular stretch of time of merely ten years.
 * WP:LISTCRUFT reads "Listcruft is a term some editors use to refer to indiscriminate or trivial lists."
 * But this is hardly trivial. These are artists in exhibitions by curators. Even the un-notable artists—those without articles on Wikipedia—provide insight into the artistic tastes of Collins and Milazzo. The un-notable artists were chosen with the same eye to quality as those artists with articles on Wikipedia. The sort of artwork they presented in these shows is not necessarily easily known to a reader of the Collins & Milazzo Exhibitions article but to me it seems wasteful to discard this potentially useful and relevant information. Bus stop (talk) 12:26, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 13:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * keep or merge I am not sure exactly how we should cover the topics of Tricia Collins, Richard Milazzo as individuals and their co-work together in Collins & Milazzo Exhibitions and their other projects, but this is more of a clean up project than deletion. (although a lot of the list content in all of the articles will probably need to be deleted) "In the past 4 years, curators Tricia Colins and Richard Milazzo have put together 21 art shows ... They've made a name by helping turn slick, conceptual "neo-geo" art into the season's dominant form"  " Tricia Collins and Richard Milazzo, the quintessential '80s curatorial team,"--  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  22:19, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
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