Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colonial Gazette


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The result was   delete because the subject is unverifiable.  Sandstein  18:37, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Colonial Gazette

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Unless I am mistaken, I am unable to find any evidence supporting a seventeenth century Boston newspaper by this name. The article, as written today, fails WP:RS. If anyone can provide evidence of this publication's existence and notability, I would respectfully request it. Ecoleetage (talk) 03:49, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I think the article refers to the "American Colonial Gazette" published from Mass. in the late 1600's. See this Link somewhere towards the bottom. Annette46 (talk) 04:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Sorry, Annette, but I don't think that is very helpful -- it is just a one-sentence mention of a publication called "American Colonial Gazette" (no history or location) and the link in the article goes to a decidedly non-colonial web site (see for yourself -- don't worry, it is a safe and respected site). Ecoleetage (talk) 04:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The wayback machine actually gives this for "American Colonial Gazette". Annette46 (talk) 05:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Only sources I can find are for the The Anglo-Saxon, European and Colonial Gazette see here and here, which was a 19th century Boston newspaper. ascidian  | talk-to-me  05:50, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per the total paucity of sources. The Britannica article on newspaper publishing states that the first attempt at a newspaper in America was Publick Occurrences, Both Foreign and Domestick, suppressed by the authorities after just one edition in 1690 (another shining moment in British history...) Nothing else was then recorded until The Boston News-Letter in 1704, but obviously we're into the 18th century by then. Gr1st (talk) 09:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete due to the lack of citations from reliable sources, which are required by the verifiability policy. Even if sources were added, notability would still be in question. Stifle (talk) 14:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Think it would be notable if it existed - problem is proving the latter.Brammarb (talk) 16:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. While I don't think there would be any notability issues if we had sources, I don't think we have any proof that this particular paper existed. Here's what I just researched on my offline sources: scanned index for "Gazette" and "Colonial [Gazette]" - nothing in Middlekauf's Glorious Cause; Borneman's 1812; Fischer's Paul Revere's Ride and Washington's Crossing; McCullough's 1776, or Ellis' His Excellency and Founding Brothers. I did have three books with mentions. Griffith's The War for American Independence has two footnotes citing publications in "The Gazette". McCullough's John Adams and Ellis' American Creation both have more robust and frequent mentions of a publication called "The Gazette of the United States". Clearly, this isn't a publication from the seventeenth century ("United States"), and perhaps referred to Pennsylvania Gazette (newspaper). Tan      39  16:43, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  17:33, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep There is a long specific quotation from an official proclamation published in this papar at 1656, appearing in the article on Ann Austin. Anne McDermott (talk) 22:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless I'm missing something here, the reference from which the quote is cited (at mayflowerfamilies.com) doesn't mention an actual newspaper named the Colonial Gazette - isn't that just what that part of the website is called? Gr1st (talk) 22:31, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You are correct, there's nothing on that page - or the entire site - that refers to an actual newspaper from the 1600s. A poorly researched keep vote. Tan      39  23:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If this is so, I concede. The text of the Ann Austin article is certainly misleading and gives the clear impression that it is a quote from an actual newspaper of the time. Anne McDermott (talk) 08:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


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