Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colonization in Europe


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I am interpreting the two oppose !votes as keep. And I concur that a poor choice in article name is not a compelling argument for deletion given various lesser remedies available. - Ad Orientem (talk) 04:54, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Colonization in Europe

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The article does not match its title. What is described is not colonisation. Rathfelder (talk) 14:16, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:25, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Archaeology-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:25, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:25, 10 June 2017 (UTC)


 * In fairness, it may be simply the less commonly used meaning of colonization, per https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/colonization. After all, Hominidae are creatures that are establishing themselves in this area. But surely this must exist elsewhere? It's a highly notable topic. I've sorted this to the archeology discussion, too. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:27, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Rename. Awkward title—the movements of ancient hominids are properly called dispersals, but sometimes also colonisations or migrations—but that isn't a reason for deletion. It looks like it was originally intended to be broader in scope, and perhaps there is room for an article about colonialism within Europe, but obviously this isn't it. I suggest we rename it to something like Hominid dispersals in Europe to match the current scope. The content is decent and could be a good starting point for an article that supplements Early human migrations. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 14:54, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, the sole rationale to date is 'article does not match its title,' which is not, in and of itself, really a reason to delete. Oppose. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:14, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * A rehabilitated article about Colonization in Europe or Colonization of Europe might discuss the Plantation of Ulster if not also Magna Graecia and the Roman Empire. Decolonization of Europe, by the way, before various national independence wars were added, listed the Crown Colony of Malta and British Cyprus. In this article, the present section on Non-European colonization (Umayyad conquest of Hispania, Mongol invasion of Europe, Ottoman wars in Europe) matches more closely with the meaning you're looking for. Cheers, groupuscule (talk) 16:54, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The nominator might have possibly been influenced by what he found at Articles for deletion/Decolonization of Europe, which does involve human 'colonization' in the more familiar sense. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:08, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose - the term is used in biology/ecology to refer to the spread of a novel species into virgin territory, so the page is not misnamed. However, because most people think of the geo-political rather than the biological meaning when they see the word, a rename to include the word Hominid in the title may limit confusion. Agricolae (talk) 17:04, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Additional note: part of the problem is with the creator's intent to mix apples and oranges. The non-filled-out heading framework indicates the intention to include not only hominid dispersal but also the Migration Period tribal movements and even historical conquests.  There is no reason to do this, as they are each distinct topics, and since none of the more recent time-frame material has been added yet, I am going to specify that the title is referring to hominid dispersal and remove the heading framework for the other topics to keep the page focussed. Agricolae (talk) 17:15, 15 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.