Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colonization of Europa (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 18:02, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Colonization of Europa
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First of all, to avoid misunderstandings, this is about Europa the moon of Jupiter, not Europe the continent. Having clarified that, let's go on.

This article is a great case of WP:SYNTH. The topic of the article is about the chances of building a human settlement on Europa, but the sources do not deal with that topic. Sources are almost always about something else, that this article repurposes into its topic. For example, reference 4: the article says that the low temperatures are a problem for colonization, but the source merely reports the temperatures. Sources 9-10 discuss the likelihood of microbes in the European subsurface ocean, but not the interaction of such microbes and human metabolism (it is also possible that our own microbes decimate the alien ones, or that both are simply unable to interact in any significant way). And many cases are that way.

Needless to say, out there in the real world there are zero actual projects to do any of this. Human colonization of space so far only aims to the Moon and Mars; further than that is only in the minds of science fiction authors (and we already have Jupiter in fiction for that) and merely speculative authors. Reference 3 is one of those. I can only see a preview, but it says "the polar regions of Mercury, for example, have been suggested because of the suspected presence of water ice and an abundance of natural resources", seems quite hard to take seriously with just a superficial knowledge of the actual conditions on the surface of Mercury.

For the record, there was a previous AFD here, but I understand that the article looked differently back then and that it no longer applies. Cambalachero (talk) 18:14, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Astronomy-related deletion discussions. Cambalachero (talk) 18:14, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: OR/SYNTH. Sources about space probes and Alzheimers, do not generally go together. Oaktree b (talk) 19:35, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment and in regards to the last comment in the last AfD from 2005: " In a few decades (would have been sooner if Nixon hadn't cut funding), we might conceivably need to split an article with a title such as RickK suggested (with most of the current content) from (Actual) Colonization of the outer solar system. In practice, I suspect the closest we'll come to "colonization" for centuries is the equivalent of workers on offshore oil-drilling rigs. I'm a science fiction fan, and realize that Interstellar colonization is a quite different and longer-term matter than Colonization of the outer solar system, so they probably shouldn't be combined into one "... of space" page"... Well, it's been 2 decades, nothing has happened, so, we still don't need a split. Can barely get people in orbit now, let alone other planets. Maybe we'll revisit in 2045 wikipedia! Oaktree b (talk) 19:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep I'm biased, but I really don't think any article that long is appropriate for merge-deletion, which I'm pretty sure is going to happen. IPs are people too 🇺🇸🦅 23:39, 3 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spaceflight-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 00:22, 4 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Almost entirely WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. JML1148 ( talk &#124; contribs ) 01:42, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete This is just someone’s original research. Quite interesting ideas, but unfortunately not fit as a Wikipedia article.Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 12:52, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Too soon! Chidgk1 (talk) 17:40, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Space colonization is sufficient, though there are about a dozen paragraphs about colonizing Jupiter's moon Europa (Phys.org). Clarityfiend (talk) 11:38, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above Parham wiki (talk) 12:30, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per Cambalachero well-reasoned nomination. --Tserton (talk) 18:51, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


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