Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colorado Crimson


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The result was Keep. Eluchil404 23:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Colorado Crimson

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Non notable new (from 2007) amatuer football club. Contested prod, because they play in the third division of the North American soccer league. No indication that they meet WP:NOTE in any way, though, simply playing in a certain (non-professional) league isn't enough. Fram 20:55, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. Malcolmxl5 12:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Although the club has amateur status, they charge for admission, will participate in the US Open Cup, and there is coverage of the club in the media (e.g., Boulder Daily Camera). It's probably a close call whether this club meets the notability criteria, but it doesn't meet the "definitely not notable" criteria here: . Jogurney 16:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep If the club can play in the US Open Cup, it is as notable as clubs down to Step 6 in England which can compete in the FA Cup. Number   5  7  20:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Keep in mind that any amateur clubs that are affiliated to the USSF can participate in the US Open Cup (so it's not as difficult to participate in as the English FA Cup). Regardless, I think the club is sufficiently notable per my comments above. Jogurney 21:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, one can not compare the cup in other countries to the FA cup, so competing in the US Open Cup does not indicate notability, and I haven't gotten a clue what else would indicate any notability for this club (charging for admission? Why is that relevant at all?) Fram 09:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Clubs generally only charge for admission as far down as Step 6/7 in England, which is the level at which they become notable. Number   5  7  12:53, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Charging for admission is a sign of notability. If people are willing to pay to watch the club play, they are more likely notable than an amateur team that does not charge admission. I agree that it's not a guarantee of notability, but the media coverage appears to keep the club out of not-notable territory. Best regards. Jogurney 13:18, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I note that every club playing in the NPSL has an article. --Malcolmxl5 20:15, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Whilst not being an expert on the intricacies of the American League system, i do think that this meets the requirement of WP:NOTE. I note that all articles in the National Premier Soccer League do have articles but that does not make any claim of notability for those individual articles. Woodym555 10:11, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep - cannot be called outright non-notable, and attract considerable non-local media coverage, such as this and this (see also supported arguments per Jogurney). Ref (chew) (do) 21:57, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


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