Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Columbia–Harvard football rivalry


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:55, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Columbia–Harvard football rivalry

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WP:NRIVALRY says "Sports rivalries are not inherently notable" and defers to WP:GNG. GNG states "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." Currently there are zero citations which reference an existing rivalry. So rivalry claim is not currently established. Searches do not return significant coverage in independent sources to meet GNG standards ("significant coverage") -I found only.

Non-GNG callouts:
 * Columbia 2018 Record Book, pg 24 Harvard leads the series 60-14-1, it dates to 1877 and is continuous from 1948 onward.
 * List of Ivy League football standings Columbia is not generally competitive.
 * site:newspapers.com is good for sourcing significant historical coverage
 * site:nytimes.com is another
 * neither returned much for me. UW Dawgs (talk) 23:50, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. L293D (☎ • ✎) 01:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. This article was created over 2 years ago, and it has never had any significant content or sourcing. Is there evidence that either college considers this a major rivalry in comparison to their other rivalries with fellow Ivy League schools? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:37, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm not even sure this is a real thing; does the mere presence of an intra-conference series constitute a "rivalry"? In any case, there don't appear to be any sources that identify it as such. Chetsford (talk) 04:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete article without any content. Need a reason?  Ignore all rules and do what you need to do to make Wikipedia better.  If it turns out it really is a noteworthy rivalry, there's no reason it cannot be re-created later when there is actual content for it.--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:02, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Jweiss11 (talk) 05:10, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. The article is an unsourced, one-sentence sub-stub asserting in its entirety: "X is an American football rivalry between Y and Z." I'm persuaded by Paul McDonald's argument about the complete lack of meaningful content. As Paul observes, if someone down the road digs and finds a solid basis for an article (be it as a "rivalry" or a highly notable series), deletion should be without prejudice to such efforts. However, as it stands, there is no basis for believing this series is a notable rivalry or otherwise sufficiently notable to warrant a stand-alone article. Cbl62 (talk) 18:12, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 01:02, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete – Interestingly enough, I considered most Ivy League teams from neighboring states to be rivalries. After looking, this definitely isn't one... and the article isn't too detailed either (no real sources pointing to a rivalry). Redditaddict</b><b style="color:#339900">6</b><b style="color:#3399FF">9</b> 22:01, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete I don't see any special bowl or game name for this pairing as with Harvard-Yale football rivalry's The Game. We don't need an article for every 8*7/2 pairings in the League. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:40, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete lame. E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:18, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - doesn't seem to be much of a rivalry. No sources really either. Adamtt9 (talk) 14:17, 30 August 2018 (UTC)


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