Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Columbia traditions


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus. W.marsh 18:01, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Columbia traditions

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I propose deleting the Columbia traditions article for the following reasons: 1. Some of the content is not suitable for an encyclopedia, and has no notability, especially as a stand-alone article. 2. The content that is suitable for an encyclopedia already exists on the Columbia University article. And 3. The “Barnard Jokes” section is the only “addition” to the main article. It was originally created as a stand-alone article which was deleted for “Attack Page” and “Things Made Up in School” reasons. It was later added to, and then removed from the Columbia University article. The Columbia traditions article is an attempt to bring back that individual’s opinion into Wikipedia. While that section seems well sourced, the source links are mostly concerned with a specific incident a few years ago in which the university marching band had an event with jokes about Barnard students. See the various discussions on the Columbia University talk page (removal of "Barnard jokes", and WP:RFC response), and my talk page. Matan 21:21, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge non-reduntant content back into Columbia University and or Barnard College. Every college and university has its traditions, some more so than others, and these usually involve special rituals for welcoming (nicely and otherwise) new students, events before and after exam week, the big game, etc.  Nothing against Columbia U., or college traditions, but against a precedent for every college's traditions to have a separate article.  In contrast, a comparative article about college traditions would probably be welcome.  Mandsford 22:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Hold off on any deletion of this article and let the deletion debate run for its standard five days. This is a major university, with a 250 year plus history, and doubtless has numerous well documented traditions. It appears to have a number of references. The "Things made up in school one day" complaint would not apply to things made up during the reign of George III which have persisted to the present, should there be any such. There is clearly much more to this article than one incident involving Barnard which irritated the nominator. Edison 02:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep If there's a section you think of low quality, edit it--i just moved it under Orgo Night, and the relevant content could probably be combined into that section. -- There's more than enough here for a separate article, and much to be said for keeping it separate from the main article on the University. Articles on major universities can easily get much too long. afD is not for trivial editing difficulties like this. DGG (talk) 08:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * But how does having the same text in both places help the Columbia article? Its not as if hordes of users are now expanding the article with more traditions. If there is so much text about true traditions that the main article is too long, then we should have this article. But given the writer's focus on the jokes (and nothing else), I suspect the whole point of this article is to bring back text that was justly removed from the main article. Matan 17:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete as all of its content already exists, as far as I can see, in the main university article.--Voxpuppet (talk • contribs) 07:07, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.