Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Commissar (Warhammer 40,000)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. PhilKnight (talk) 11:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Commissar (Warhammer 40,000)

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No established real-world notability (there isn't any). No independent, third-party sources (there aren't any). Pure narration / exploration of a minor character type from a game universe. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, no major real-world notablity. Transwiki to W40K Wikia if not already there. Stifle (talk) 13:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete No independent sources establish notability of the subject. I don't own the Compendium but I'm guessing there is a fair amount of OR as well. Protonk (talk) 16:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge in some appropriate place, as should be the default in cases like this, preferred to nominating for deletion. DGG (talk) 16:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 *  Transwiki and delete. No references independent of Games Workshop to demonstrate notability.  Anything relevant already exists in the Imperial Guard (Warhammer 40,000) article (which, however, needs work itself).  A redirect could be possible, but I don't view this as a particularly relevant search term.  --Craw-daddy | T | 17:10, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: I have transwikied this article here. --Craw-daddy | T | 18:36, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you actually transwiki, or just copy and paste the content?  Pagra shtak  20:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I followed the directions presented at that wiki, as I don't have the capability to use their import function there. If someone does, I welcome them transferring the article history.  --Craw-daddy | T | 20:36, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see that. has transwikied quite a few W40K articles, but I think he burned out on it. I believe he was exporting the history as well. If any more W40K articles need transwikied, you might check with him about it. Maybe he could at least direct you to someone else with the ability to import there.  Pagra  shtak  20:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - no assertion of notability via non-trivial coverage by reliable sources independent of the topic. Fails WP:NOT. sephiroth bcr  ( converse ) 19:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to transwiked location as it is notable to a real world audience and this way those who have read the article here in the past that return to it will be taken to the new location where they can continue to work on or read the article. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 19:18, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That's an awful idea. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web directory. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 20:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a great idea as it expands our means of coverage to other wikis and provides editors interested in this encyclopedic information with a means of better navigating the internet's coverage of it. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 20:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web directory. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 20:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It is consistent with what Wikipedia is by expanding our coverage to another wiki, i.e. hardly a directory. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 21:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web directory. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 21:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * And my suggestion is consistent with that. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 21:11, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web directory. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 21:13, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * We have other soft redirects and thus doing so is consistent with our policies and just as the external links in our articles doesn't make us a directory, nor would this suggestion. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 21:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Soft redirects to Wikia aren't appropriate. See Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 July 11. --Phirazo 04:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Transwiki and soft redirect I don't see any problem with leaving it in as a soft re-direct to a wikia wiki —Preceding unsigned comment added by UltraMagnus (talk • contribs) 20:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Summary of a fictional character's role within the fictional universe. Pure fancrap with no real-world content whatsoever. Non-notable also as this topic has not been covered in reliable sources independent of the subject. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 20:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:JNN is not a compelling reason for deletion. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 20:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:JNN doesn't apply as I gave a reason why it's not notable. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 20:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * But it is notable enough for a soft-redirect due to obvious reader and editor interest and the existence of a valid redirect location. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 21:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:ITSNOTABLE. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 21:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree that it is notable. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 21:11, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:ITSNOTABLE. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 21:13, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not arguing to keep the article, but to redirect it to another wiki, which is a different standard of notability. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 21:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web directory. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 21:16, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, which is why I am arguing to softly redirect this encyclopedic content. -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 21:19, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable. JUSTHASNTBEENCOVEREDINRELIABLESOURCESINDEPENDENTOFTHESUBJECT is a deletion criterion, regardless of any essays to the contrary. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 20:50, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete- yet another lengthy in-universe treatise on an unencyclopedic topic, that is not covered by sources independent of the game's creators. Just more 40Kruft. Reyk  YO!  22:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi! Please note WP:UNENCYCLOPEDIC and Do not call things cruft.  I actually do not disagree with you about in-universe content and use of primarily primary sources; however, given the transwiki efforts, I still see no reason why we could not soft redirect there for those who are interested in this information.  -- Happy editing!  Sincerely,  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 22:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Those are essays and not policy, and I can choose to follow them or not at my discretion. And, as you can see, I have chosen not to. I prefer to call a spade a spade. If there's a place for this at another wiki then that's all well and good, but there's no place for it here. If the article is deleted I think you can make a soft redirect anyway. Reyk  YO!  22:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Transwiki and soft redirect. Sister wikis are reasonable targets... Hobit (talk) 02:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikia wikis are not considered sister projects. See WP:SISTER. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 03:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - lack of citations to multiple reliable third-party sources offering significant coverage. Apparently already transwikied. There is no sister project to which a soft redirect can appropriately be setup (Wikia, as I think someone pointed out, is not a sister project). --EEMIV (talk) 05:13, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect to Imperial Guard (Warhammer 40,000) - per User:A Man In Black, this topic has no claim of notability and zero independent sources, the topic is of only questionable notability in universe, and furthermore violates most of our guidelines for writing about fiction --T-rex 01:16, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


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