Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Companions of the Hall (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Forgotten Realms characters. Or elsewhere as editors may determine.  Sandstein  10:37, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Companions of the Hall
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Non-notable group, fails WP:NFICTION/GNG. At best soft delete by redirecting to its only notable member (Drizzt Do'Urden). Nothing to merge as the content is 100% WP:FANCRUFT with few PRIMARY sources. The last AfD presented several sources (none of which was actually added to the article in years since), but they are mentions in passing (GNG requires in-depth coverage). I did review the sources and they are clearly not sufficient, ex. - this is the very definition of a mention in passing in a single sentence that contains not a shred of real-world-related analysis. The best source cited is this PhD thesis, but again, it only mentions this group in passing (I want to stress it: not a single full sentence is devoted to non-plot analysis of this concept); none of those sources goes an inch beyond pure WP:PLOT. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:35, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  08:35, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fantasy-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 11:49, 4 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep per prior AFDs or merge to List of Forgotten Realms characters. BOZ (talk) 12:49, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect - Generally multiple AfDs with not an ounce of improvement show that argument in the previous AfDs were likely invalid. This has no sources. It fails WP:PLOT and WP:WAF. TTN (talk) 13:16, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect/Merge to List of Forgotten Realms characters. As mentioned in the nom, the information found in reliable, secondary sources is generally passing mentions or plot-only information, both for the group as a whole and for the individual members (with the exception of Drizzt).  Those brief sources, along with the fact that as the main characters of a popular franchise this is a very likely search term, are enough that they should be included in the list of Forgotten Realms characters, but not as a separate article.  That said, whatever merging is to be done should be done rather sparingly, as a good amount of the information here appears to be unsourced/original research.  Rorshacma (talk) 16:54, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Usual-variety fancruft. Fails NFICTION.Kacper IV (talk) 12:36, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Forgotten Realms characters, fails WP:GNG, as all sources are primary. Devonian Wombat (talk) 00:38, 9 December 2019 (UTC)


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