Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of English-speaking road signs


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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 08:12, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Comparison of English-speaking road signs

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I don't believe such a comparison table adds much value to Wikipdia. Whereas Comparison of European road signs provides a realistic and educational comparison of road signs across an entire continent, this article appears to be completely subjective. It would be best restrict the criteria for these comparison tables to continents/regions, otherwise we could create dozens of tables for all sorts of reasons. Also this article is completely unsourced and was created by the Jermboy sockmaster.  Fry1989  eh? 03:19, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete I tend to agree with the nomination. My vote may have been different under two conditions, the article was sourced, and it was a list of English-speaking countries (which may have some value). However, as it is, it is unsourced and includes English-speaking places (do they really use different road signs in Ontario than they do in the rest of Canada???). English is spoken in "places" all over the world, theoretically you could justify adding every road sign in the world on this table. I "sort of" understand the intent of the creator (whether a sock or not), but this is simply not defined well enough. -War wizard90 (talk) 03:32, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Just a comment, road signs are controlled by the provinces in Canada so there are some variation, though mostly minor (hope that answers your curiosity). As for the article, my main concern is that this is a slippery slope to comparison tables for any number of qualifiers. Comparison of European road signs was nominated for deletion twice I believe with some questioning it's scope, it's best we keep the criteria narrow so we're not swamped. I have no prejudice towards the article itself, I just see it as superfluous. Glad you agree.  Fry1989  eh?  04:48, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete Seems to be a cherry-picked selection (not sure if this makes it a violation of WP:CHERRY though), but does seem to violate WP:INDISCRIMINATE. DerbyCountyinNZ  (Talk Contribs) 08:02, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:EVADE, although I am otherwise neutral. This doesn't seem to add anything since the information is available elsewhere, however a comparison of road signs in predominantly English-speaking areas is not inherently unencyclopedic. It would, however, need a lot more columns than this and would likely be unusable for technological reasons. Responding to notes above: since road traffic is the responsibility of the provinces in Canada, it is actually the Canada column that shouldn't be there, but then there could be a column for each of the 13 provinces and territories, and the differences are generally minor. WP:CHERRY refers to cherrypicking sources to exclude reliable information that doesn't support your point of view, and doesn't seem to apply here. Ivanvector (talk) 18:39, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * A Canadian comparison table is not out of the question in the future, but at this time we only have files for Ontario and Quebec.  Fry1989  eh?  20:45, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I'll think about that. Images of the road signs should be easy enough to come by. Ivanvector (talk) 20:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Trust me, I've tried. Quebec has them in EPS format for free download, I need to finish that up some time in the future. Ontario has them in PDF format but those documents are rather old. British Colombia has them in PDF too, but the quality is so poor they're almost useless and they want me to pay 5000 dollars for quality EPS files, and the other provinces just have basic "Know your traffic signs" documents with a sample of the most common signs everyone should know, but not a full catalogue. If you do find something though, please let me know.  Fry1989  eh?  00:06, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. While a table of this type may be useful and valuable if the comparison is made across a geographic connection — such as countries of a specific continent, states and provinces of a specific country if there are notable variations from one division to another, etc. — but a random comparison across otherwise unrelated countries solely on the basis of a shared language community isn't of much utility. This falls on the wrong side of the distinction between "because useful" and "because possible". Bearcat (talk) 23:38, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Do road signs speak English? or should this be comparison of road signs in English-speaking countries? Le petit fromage (talk) 14:34, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * No because all of the columns listed are not countries...which is one of the points put forward in this discussion. -War wizard90 (talk) 22:02, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
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