Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of smartphones (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 00:57, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Comparison of smartphones
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Too broad in scope. There are no sources that compare all smartphones from 2002-2012 from all brands with all operating systems from all ranges (low, mid, high end) with each other. For the same reason why there should not be a comparison of cars in Wikipedia. Andries (talk) 21:03, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to Smartphone (there isn't even a list of smartphones it could be redirected/merged to). This is too large a subject to be treated this way, and such a comparison isn't going to be useful or comprehensible. The best hope is to redirect to an article which provides a comparison of the different types of smartphones. --Colapeninsula (talk) 23:19, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It could be redirected/disambiguated to
 * list of ios devices
 * comparison of Symbian devices
 * comparison of Android devices
 * Nokia series
 * etc.
 * Andries (talk) 20:51, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect. There are lots of smartphones with many new ones being launched monthly. I don't think it would all fit in here. The article is simply too large at size and comparisons are too hard to read. Also the tables simply do not compare everything. We don't need an article like this on Wikipedia. It should be deleted, and would save hours of work from Wikipedians.--Gaming&#38;Computing (talk) 17:50, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * This is a ridiculous article, with fast changing smartphone industry, this article seems obsolete.--Skashifakram (talk) 08:50, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename to List of smartphones. This is clearly a list, and thus should be named as such. The word "comparison" makes the article sound too commercial in nature, as if it's a shopping guide that allows readers to compare features, but Wikipedia is not a guide or how-to manual. Still, it satisfies the notability criteria under WP:LISTN; the subject of smartphones have clearly been treated as a group in reliable sources. The criteria for inclusion are also suitably narrow and well-defined. It's easy to distinguish a smartphone from a basic phone, or at least I think so. --Batard0 (talk) 03:06, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I do not think that all smartphones from 2002-2012 as a group have been treated in multiple reliable sources. Andries (talk) 09:39, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:LISTN: "The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been." --Batard0 (talk) 12:24, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, a list may be a good idea on second thoughts, but the article should not be re-directed to a list. Andries (talk) 20:59, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:36, 31 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep or split. If it's too cluttered, we can split it up by era / generation and / or trim it down to the most notable current and historical models. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 00:18, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Renaming as a list makes no sense -it is indeed a comparison by several features, like many articles of the same type. I don't see how it is too broad in scope -there are many smartphones, sure, but the scope is very clear nonetheless (it's not like a "comparison of phones"). It satisfies WP:LISTN. -- Cycl o pia talk  20:20, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It may be all right to keep the "comparison" heading on those grounds, but I see a fundamental difference between the purpose of this article and articles like Comparison of butterflies and moths. Because smartphones are commercial products, a comparison of them becomes in some ways a guide, which is something Wikipedia is not. It becomes a comparison-shopping tool, in some sense. I grant that there are other similar articles, like a comparison of Android phones, but WP:OSE and these should perhaps be renamed as well. A list is more encyclopedic than a comparison guide when it comes to commercial products, in my view. The naming of the article may be a formality, but I think it should be renamed nonetheless to better reflect the encyclopedia's purpose. --Batard0 (talk) 06:05, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Nonsense. Butterflies and moths are notable objects. Smartphones are notable objects too. That you can buy the latter is no grounds to make differences between them. It's a comparison: if you use it as a guide, then it's your personal usage of it, and it's fine, but it's not meant to be a shopping guide. -- Cycl o pia talk  10:16, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with the second part of this. And to reflect that it's not meant to be a comparison shopping guide, it should be renamed as a list, in my view. We can present it either as a comparison of smartphones or a list of smartphones and their features. The latter I think more accurately reflects Wikipedia's purpose and is more encyclopedic. --Batard0 (talk) 18:19, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Comparisons are encyclopedic summaries, and appropriate articles. They're more than lists, because they give a much wider variety of information that can not easily fit into list format. A list would be appropriate as well.  DGG ( talk ) 20:23, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
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