Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conceit (rapper)


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The result was   keep. Shereth 21:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Conceit (rapper)

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Contested speedy under notability guidelines. Ryan Delaney talk 03:58, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   — Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 04:06, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

A google search for- conceit "on the rise" brings up 37,400 hits. All legitimate.

From Wikipedia's notability guide:

"It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable."

Here are two media references (one is the San Francisco Chronicle, which did a full page article on him).

1) Conceit interview: http://www.zeromag.com/articles/article_view.php?id=1049

2) Conceit SF Chronicle Newspaper interview:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/05/DDU3SJ8K4.DTL&type=printable —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boac411 (talk • contribs) 02:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

"Notability is met if the musician has been the subject of a broadcast by a media network." - Wiki guidelines.

3) Conceit press for winning Youtube.com's "On The Rise" contest: http://www.illestlyrics.com/Hip-HopNews/50_Cent_Names_Youtube_Competition_Winner-1/

Youtube.com featured him as part of the live New Years Eve BROADCAST. Youtube.com is a media network. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.103.251.204 (talk • contribs) 04:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - that's probably good enough for notability. JohnCD (talk) 13:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep – I also added this interview on NPR. I agree that there is enough third-party sourcing here for WP:N notability. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 18:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. I expect the results of this discussion to be Keep, and I recognize that the citations are valid and attest to the individual's notability.  I was responsible for speedying this article before any references were added.  I just want to note that I find it very difficult to accept that a musician who has never released an album, as near as I can tell, let alone had it chart in the Billboard 100 or anywhere else, can be notable.  He won a Youtube contest (not expert opinion, AFAIK) and he has released some mixtapes, and he has a recording contract.  I recognize that this individual has possibly attained notability in a non-traditional way, but I don't see it as being in any traditional way.  Just my two cents, and I won't quarrel with whatever the ultimate disposition of this article is.  Accounting4Taste: talk 18:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep There's enough here for WP:N, although part of me agrees with A4T's comments above. sparkl!sm hey! 07:26, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. He has certainly obtained a measure of notability, however small. As this notability is almost certain to grow, and is held individually, and not solely per his association with Fitty, I think this article should be kept. S. Dean Jameson 14:56, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Being covered by news media is not a "non-traditional way" for an article topic to obtain notability. --Ryan Delaney talk 15:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per the nominator I think there is ample coverage so this may be a WP:SNOW closure. JBsupreme (talk) 16:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


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