Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conemaugh Health System


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. the person requesting deletion has apparently withdrawn the request  DGG ( talk ) 03:05, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Conemaugh Health System

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Per OTRS, ticket =. Organization contacted OTRS and requests deletion of the page. Procedural nom, no opinion expressed by nominator. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:19, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
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 * Comment - Can I ask why they want the article deleted? Also, what is the policy regarding these types of requests, are we obligated in any way to delete the article?  &mdash;SW&mdash; chatter 17:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep, I see nothing meriting deleting, and no possible concerns that the company could or should have with the article. Subject seems noteworthy and article seems factual. Prodego  talk  00:26, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:29, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Are we actually sure the OTRS requester is actually a CHS representative? There is evidence in the article history of trying to blank out the entire article a day before the OTRS ticket was filed. There's nothing actionable here that I see, it's a 'they exist and here are their hospitals' article where there are no outrageous claims that should be addressed by an OTRS ticket.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 02:49, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep in the absence of any additional info from OTRS. &mdash;SW&mdash; confabulate 18:15, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Another email received, same sender as before; ticket 2011071510012014. Written from the conemaugh.org domain so an employee at least. Nothing to act upon with regards to ticket content. – Adrignola talk 15:22, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Greetings! I am the Marketing & Social Media Coordinator / Writer at Conemaugh Memorial Medical Center (MMC), Conemaugh Health System in Johnstown, PA. Our intern, Jim, has been in contact with you regarding removal of the Conemaugh Health System wikipedia page. Upon his arrival at MMC, our new Vice President of HR created the page in order to provide general information about our organization to Internet users. However, no content was added. Our intern was then given the task of creating a simple, yet informational, page on the links that had been created. For weeks, we have had difficulty adding and editing content to a public domain -- receiving notifications that we were violating copyright laws and could not post our content even though it was 100% original, factual and contained no marketing terminology or tone in its content. I also attempted to post information, and after completing all but 2 pages, was informed that the pages were all deleted -- and was blocked from the username I had created.

Due to the extensive time we have spent on this with no success, we ask that you please remove the Conemaugh Health System page and all its links from Wikipedia. While this is a public domain open for all to post, we cannot allow (potentially) false information to be posted about our organization by outside users. As we do not have access to appropriately change the information if necessary -- and keep running into obstacles trying to post information -- we would be unable to maintain accurate content about our organization.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me directly at svarmeck@conemaugh.org.

Thank you. --StacyVatConemaugh (talk) 14:04, 18 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Stacy, you clearly have a fundamental misunderstanding regarding what Wikipedia is about and how it works. Wikipedia does not exist to promote your company.  Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, a place to store knowledge about encyclopedic topics.  Take a look at this edit for instance (presumably by you or your intern), which contains such statements as: "The Conemaugh Health System maintains a steadfast commitment to quality that motivates every member of our team to strive for our vision of Excellence. Every Patient. Every Time." among many others.  These are extremely promotional, non-encyclopedic statements that read as if they were copied and pasted from marketing material from the hospital (and they probably were).  Writing a neutral, non-promotional article about your own company is difficult (and discouraged) because of the obvious conflict of interest which arises.  The article will likely not be deleted, only because there isn't a valid reason to delete it.  If you notice any false information being added to the article, feel free to let me or anyone else know, and we can take care of it.  If you have any other questions, you can post them here, or feel free to post a question on my talk page.  &mdash;SW&mdash; babble 16:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello again. Thank you for responding. The creation of the Wikipedia page was not done through the Marketing Department at Conemaugh as I mentioned in my original message. As the new Social Media Coordinator / Writer, I hesitantly agreed when given the task of adding information to the site. As a recent undergraduate and graduate student, I have always been informed and taught by professors – and business professionals in the community – that Wikipedia should never be cited or used in any type of research paper or publication as the information cannot be guaranteed to be 100% accurate or factual due to the open public access for editing. I do not know anyone who uses the source or uploads to it so I was not aware of content that can and cannot be uploaded. I apologize for the confusion; I simply did not give investigation of this information time nor priority. Therefore, while I assisted in guiding our intern to add content to present factual information, it was not my or our company’s intent to make this an ongoing project. The goal was to simply add a few factual statements as the page was already in place. I apologize that the edit you made a citation of slipped through my radar. Our intern was given the task to write a few simple factual statements to upload – I had not realized that he was using promotional phrases. Thank you for your time. No further action needs to take place regarding the deletion of this page. --StacyVatConemaugh (talk) 17:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.