Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conference on the Future of Europe


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:41, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Conference on the Future of Europe

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WP:CRYSTALBALL, primarily. Only source cited is Ursula von der Leyen's manifesto, and most of the article is literally a quote from this manifesto. Also appears to be no significant media coverage (at the time of this AfD) to meet WP:GNG. No opposition to this article being re-created if and when the Conference becomes more than a suggestion in a campaign document. -- a they/them &#124; argue &#124; contribs 23:47, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. -- a they/them &#124; argue &#124; contribs 23:47, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. -- a they/them &#124; argue &#124; contribs 23:47, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep as this has no violation of CRYSTAL, since it is an EU organisation. Deleting it just because of a speech is not relevant since other RS can be found. There is also no implication of predictions, thereofre the crystal-ball arguement doesn't stand.WikiAviator (talk) 00:41, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lord Roem ~ (talk) 01:19, 28 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. I think the topic is gaining traction - and that neither WP:CRYSTALBALL, nor WP:GNG are violated. I just added some information with more links and verifiable information, which do show, that the topic does have an importance for the European political discourse. On WP:CRYSTALBALL - I assume you argue that the first bulletpoint (neither notable nor almost certain to take place) applies? If so, I'd say that the event has notability (European leaders and politicians are talking about it and discussing its structure at the very moment). On WP:GNG: At this point of time, there is plenty of international coverage mentioning the conference - whether it is pan-European media, German media (Deutsche Welle, Deutschlandfunk), Italian media, Dutch media or others. Sorry for any possible mistakes in this comment! I'm not very familiar with Wikipedia and this is the first AfD discussion I participate in, but I hope that these arguments show, that the article should rather be improved (because that's necessary for sure ;-) ) instead of being deleted. SalmiakiShortbread (talk) 19:26, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep – it's fresh yet, a Franco-German intention, Mrs von der Leyen included in her 'to do list' both as a candidate (https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/political-guidelines-next-commission_en.pdf – A greater say for Europeans in 6. A new push for European democracy) and at her 'inauguration'. The 'non-paper' (http://www.politico.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Conference-on-the-Future-of-Europe.pdf) concludes: The final document with recommendations should be presented to the EUCO for debate and implementation. and:
 * We suggest the following rough time table: • 12th/13th December 2019 – First Discussion at the EUCO • January 2020 – Conference concept / Interinstitutional mandate • February 2020 – Kick-Off of Phase 1 (in particular transnational lists, lead candidate system, issues related to citizens’ participation in EU institutions/matters) • July 2020 – Kick-Off Conference of Phase 2 in Brussels • 2nd half 2020 – Launch of EU-wide expert meetings and citizens dialogues (by EU institutions and member states) • 2021 – Thematic and midterm review conferences • 1st half 2022 – Closing Conference wiki-vr.mp (talk) 08:28, 3 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep More sources have been added since the AfD was started. Bondegezou (talk) 10:45, 4 December 2019 (UTC)


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