Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Confessions of a Matchmaker


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep per E.M.Gregory (talk). Withdrawing the nomination. (non-admin closure) Jovanmilic97 (talk) 14:26, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Confessions of a Matchmaker

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Does not have notability as I could not found secondary sources to back this article and fails WP:TVSERIES which says  either case, however, the presence or absence of reliable sources is more definitive than the geographic range of the program's audience alone and therefore, WP:GNG Jovanmilic97 (talk) 14:19, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 15:24, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 15:25, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I found the following sources on this show (1234567). The first three are press releases, while the others are secondary sources about the show. I am doubtful if it is enough to establish notability though. However, the title could still be a viable search term, so I would either vote delete or redirect to List of programs broadcast by A&E, where it is already listed. Aoba47 (talk) 00:37, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 17:29, 2 October 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Strong Keep - a show being broadcast on a major cable TV network. If Shark Week meets notability, this does too. The only difference is the advertising budget. @SmithAndTeam (talk) 22:19, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - @SmithAndTeam, you have not read my nomination well, haven't you? WP:NTV clearly says that despite the fact this show had a big geographic range because of airing on a cable network, that alone does not make it a keeper if sources are not present at all. The Shark Week example you used has a lot of reliable sources attached to it's article, unlike this one. (talk) 12:10, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of programs broadcast by A&E per Aoba47; based on those sources I expect an article could be written, but this isn't it. None of the existing content (beyond the first sentence) is salvageable. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 21:05, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:21, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - @Jovanmilic97, I think you're reading WP:TVSERIES too narrowly. My reading is that "Generally, a television program is likely to be notable... if it airs on a cable television channel with a broad regional or national audience." Then it lists examples as to why this might not be enough to establish notability, namely, "if it was cancelled too quickly to have garnered any media coverage." It did air 13 episodes, a full season. This would not to me seem as a show that was "cancelled quickly." I'd argue that a pilot, even if aired nationally, would fail to meet notability, but a full season (on a major TV channel) would generally clear that hurdle. Additionally, a Google Search for the series reveals, as of today, a half million results.
 * Keep per User:Aoba47's list of sources, plus . User:power~enwiki, we do not redirect articles for being poorly written (even WP:TNT is only an argument for deletion, and that only in extreme cases). Modernponderer (talk) 11:52, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I disagree strongly. If there is insufficient content for a stand-alone article and a good redirect target, the article should be replaced by a redirect, with no prejudice against somebody re-creating the article in the future. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 19:08, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * "If there is insufficient content" in the article right now, it should be improved. Only if external sources have insufficient content themselves – i.e. the subject of the article lacks notability – should either a redirect or deletion normally be considered. But that is the exact opposite of the argument you made. Modernponderer (talk) 19:19, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep It existed.   It was broadcast.  News archive searched bring up a number of feature articles, some focused on the show and others on the matchmaker.  I'll add a couple such to the page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 09:31, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * HEY, I did a minor cleanup, expanded it a little. there was a formal review of the show in the New York Times, a review in The Buffalo News that was picked up by other papers from a wire service.  Quite a number of feature stories published in places far form Buffalo ( I added on in the Chicago Tribune.)  A lot of feature story interest was focused on the matchmaker in the show.  There is more that can be added, I used a news archive search, but tracked down and added the url to the NYTimes story.  I think we can KEEP this now since Nom most "delete" opinions were based on the unsourced status of the page.  Presumably, failure to search news archives contributed to the failure of BEFORE searches.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:09, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * And note that other stuff has been titled "Confessions of a Matchmaker," including feature stories about other matchmakers and reviews of other matchmaker TV shows (such as The Millionaire Matchmaker). One editor above linked to some of this other stuff.  I was careful to add only material about this show.  More exists form which article can be improved.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:29, 18 October 2018 (UTC)


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