Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Console wars


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was REDIRECT to History of video games. postdlf (talk) 20:10, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Console wars

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I feel an article about this topic cannot be appropriately maintained or sourced and that it doesn't fit the criteria for standalone notability as a concept; relevant content can and should be merged out to the "History of video games (Xth generation)" articles. All the notability is for invidual console wars in a same generation, not for the "concept" of console wars itself, without mentioning specific consoles. :) · Salvidrim!  ·  &#9993;  00:02, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:13, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:13, 9 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Nothing notable about the competition. If people wanted sales comparisons, they can just look on the console pages. DragonZero  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 01:16, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - completely redundant to the video game generation articles, and manages to be even more based off of WP:OR. Sergecross73   msg me   02:11, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - No notability has been established and there is original research everywhere. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:09, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to History of video games. I'm sure I can dig up WP:RSes on the topic, but per WP:TNT let's get rid of the current article but keep the content available (I might make this one of my projects to fix once I get the motivation to get past my impatience and actually start doing article work). A valid search term, as well. Ansh666 07:07, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - As it stands this is a delete. There are parts of it that can be used in other articles and used as a bare bones starting point for new ones. I've taken a copy of the article as it stands now, as I can make use of parts of it. The copy is here (User:X201/Console wars) if anyone wants it. - X201 (talk) 07:45, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to History of video games or another video game-related topic article. I'm sure this term has been mentioned in several reliable sources, but I don't think it's a notable enough term to have an article on it on Wikipedia. EditorE (talk) 16:14, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment from nominator - I'll agree it is a good redirect to History of video games; has copied the article in his userspace so if this ends in consensus for redirection, I'd recommend histmerging the history to X201's draft and recreating this title as a redirect, in order to preserve attribution of edits. :) ·  Salvidrim!  ·  &#9993;  17:26, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete: Wikipedia generally doesn't keep "general concept" articles like this for a number of reasons, and this article is particularly bad about WP:OR, as well as not pertaining to a specific event. It would require constant maintenance over time.  IMO, there are a few specific notable events, particularly the 16-bit advertising war in North America between Nintendo and Sega, but those events can be properly covered in their respective console/company articles and/or the History article. &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash; 05:42, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Rewrite: Surely this is quite a notable concept? If the content isn't that great, the article can be rewritten. When I say "rewrite", I mean that instead of having the article act as a timeline of game consoles (essentially a content fork of History of video games) like it currently is, the article should be more focused on the competitive marketing and development strategies between the various companies. I'm talking about things like company partnerships (e.g. Nintendo's partnership with Phillips, and how Sega Japan refused to use a chipset created by Silicon Graphics), promotional advertising campaigns and slogans ("Sega does what Nintendon't"), controversial stunts pulled off at major conferences and events such as E3 and TGS, essentially the more corporate aspect of the video game industry. There are many great articles written about the competitions between each console manufacturer that explore the topic in great detail, such as this one. I think that currently the article at Console wars is going off the wrong bend, and should be remade afresh. Delete all the text, and start from square one again. --  李博杰  &#124; —Talk contribs email 10:17, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to History of video games. I applaud the above user's thought that perhaps WP:TNT could be applied here, but I don't see it as a valid content fork of the History of video games article simply because I think talking about the concept can best be handled in that article or the sub-articles of it, i.e., 4th generation, 5th generation, etc.  Surely competition is one of the most notable aspects of each subsequent generation, I am sure, and could best be applied to the history articles.   Red Phoenix  build the future...remember the past... 00:18, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
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