Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Constance R Howard


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The result was   delete. Peter Symonds ( talk ) 09:09, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Constance R Howard

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Non-notable "up and coming" performer who has yet to release an album, no reliable sources that I can find. My speedy delete tag was removed, even though I don't really see any claims of notability other than that she is going to release an album Real Soon Now (TM). Note that Prima Donna (album) has already been speedy deleted for lack of notability. Note also that the initial editor of the article also uploaded File:Gliderconstance.jpg, claiming to be the copyright holder, therefore revealing a COI. AnyPerson (talk) 22:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I have listed who this person is and what they do which makes relevance. It was approved through Wikipedia because she is in face an actual artist. She does have an up and coming project that is already being viewed on websites and through the radio circuit. She is signed to a major record label and I've seen a lot of Indie artist on Wikipedia so i believe she deserves this page. I have listed credits and references and the picture that was uploaded is in fact a picture i shot. I believe she deserves this Wikipedia page and so does her fans.
 * The above was added by User:Xobluediamondxo. AnyPerson (talk) 00:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note that I never approved it. Wikipedia's A7 has a specific scope. If the article asserts notability, it must go through other means. In this case, notability was asserted, particularly in the "recording career" section. Now, if this is misinformation or a hoax, that would be a different matter. My decline was solely on the grounds that notability was asserted. Peter Symonds ( talk ) 00:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: I can find zero Google hits for /"constance r howard" "prima donna" -wikipedia/, and nothing at /"constance howard" "prima donna" -wikipedia/ that has anything to do with this person. Apparently not even a MySpace or YouTube page.  AnyPerson (talk) 00:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Check out [http://collect.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bandprofile.listAllShows&friendid=441613255&n=Constance+%40+The+Grammy+Awards.+Feb+8th. this page], which purports to be Constance Howard's upcoming tour schedule. The first entry is for the "El Ray" Theater in Los Angeles. The El Rey Theater in Los Angeles apparently has no record of her appearing there on January 27:. I can't find a schedule for events at the Monte Cristo club. Nothing about her at. Nothing at. Nothing at. I won't go on. AnyPerson (talk) 00:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

This is an actual artist and she is on actual tour and as for Myspace hits she is known and also has pictures and even shows with such artist as Jay-z and Kanye west. She is a notable artist. She has recently been signed to Def Jam as you can clearly see on the Def Jam site there aren't even new updates for established artist. I don't see what is your issue with this artist she is notable and even artist such as Kanye West have talked about her in previous blogs and website forums. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.210.222 (talk) 01:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Excellent. All you have to do is prove it.  AnyPerson (talk) 01:11, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Look in her pictures its all there, the proof. Shes done interviews in the Documentary "Hip Hop Videos: Sexploitation On The Set" and shes seen in numerous Jay-Z and many many more artist page. To delete Constance Wikipedia page would be an outrage. she is a known person especially through modeling and radio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.210.222 (talk) 01:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * What pictures? Please provide links.  AnyPerson (talk) 01:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

These are some of the pictures on Constance's myspace page that was an "invite only" Def Jam event.

http://i42.tinypic.com/9b9j6p.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/ip19qb.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/rljfrn.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/105tesy.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.210.222 (talk) 01:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. How do those pictures prove that she's a notable singer?  AnyPerson (talk) 01:52, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome and until Def Jam updates her site the information (which has just been released in her press release).Will be unavailable, She has pictures and videos of her singing on her myspace page and the shows she is performing for is for buzz. I recognize she in not known everywhere and you clearly don't know her but others " many" do. Constance has been performing in singing and music videos for over 10 years.How is it an Indie unsigned artist can get Wikipedia page but your questioning hers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.210.222 (talk) 02:06, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It all comes down to reliable sources. Without those, we have no proof of the claims of her notability.  If you could provide some, that would help tremendously.  AnyPerson (talk) 02:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

In order to get that you would have to view the music and videos. shes is a recording artist as you can tell from her songs and copyrights.Please do not delete this Wikipedia page i have given you some of what i can. I'm not the artist myself but i think I've provided enough information her bio is professional and i made sure to list all she has done.I've seen Indie artist Wikipedia pages that don't even have alot of information and NO references or resources and there are STILL up and running. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.210.222 (talk) 02:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you point out some of those? I'm sorry, but you haven't provided sufficient information, that on top of the apparent hoax touring information, says it all.  I won't discuss this further, no point in beating a dead horse.  AnyPerson (talk) 02:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete--despite the plethora of text here and in the article, I don't see any proof of notability. Drmies (talk) 05:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails verifiability. There is simply no information about this artist.  And in particular, Defjam has no information about her. -- Whpq (talk) 10:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i will just delete it until she "gets her credit due"..and to the "anyperson" thingy..learn peoples skills.THANKS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xobluediamondxo (talk • contribs) 13:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok well, just wait for it to be deleted cause it wont by its self...Good day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xobluediamondxo (talk • contribs) 13:13, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


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